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Advanced searching / library management

I'd really like to see some advanced searching.

For example starting with a BPM range and using that set for the next search which could be the key of the song. All this is unrelated to genre or playlist in this case.

Another option would be to search on multiple selectable fields at the same time. I'd also love to manually disable columns and be able to sort them by clicking on them.

The way Mixvibes handles searching is pretty good too. You might want to take a look at their iPad app.
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    "I'd also love to manually disable columns and be able to sort them by clicking on them."
    So am i, so we could sort by rating, coment,...

    That would be perfect, If you make it compatible with "Media Monkey" tags...

    And also adding a column for the previously played song during the actual session.
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    Fullscreen library is horrible, I can not see the artist's name and song together, only if the name of the artist and the song short. It would be good to be able to expand the column and some non-essential items such as "Album" repress. I hope you will accept this criticism and resolved in the next Updates.

    Best Regards,
    Radulovic Filip

    This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
    Horrible fullscreen library view.
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  • Yeah. Album never made sense to me from a DJ perspective.

    Right now for me it's only useful to abuse it by putting the key in it or something...
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    Hi there,

    (Hooked into a Numark IDJ Pro)

    Couldn't agree more... when I want to play a specific remix of a track during a set I want to see:

    Black Man (Alliance DC Vocal Strut)

    Currently, this is what I see this in my library when sorted by Song:

    Black Man (Aca...
    Black Man (Allia...
    Black Man (Guir...
    Black Man (Instr...
    Black Man (Jami...
    Black Man (Jami...
    Black Man (Jami...
    Black Man (Lac...
    Black Man (Lac...
    Black Man (Voc...

    This honestly sucks.... not only doesn't it scroll, I can't get a preview before I select the track to load... nor does the track name scroll across in the main app screen.

    I'm not into guessing which one of three different tracks I need to select when I have already chosen in my mind the one I want to play.....

    Please can this be looked into as a matter or urgency as the full screen library at present for the most part simply doesn't work.

    What works:

    1.) The filter / search bar at the top right
    2.) The scroll action through the list of tracks presented

    What doesn't work:

    1.) The columns are too narrow
    2.) In Song view the Album column can be argued as being redundant
    3.) The Library playlist running down the left hand side is a complete waste of space, let it be a pop-out or filter you choose, to the left of "Songs" for example.
    4.) When you select a track by touching it with your finger and holding for a second (so it is acknowledged as an intended touch), it needs to jump out immediately (no time-wasting animation) with a pop-up at the top of the screen (ie above where your finger is) with some of the meta tag data:

    a.) Full Track Name
    b.) Album Name
    c.) Length of Track
    d.) BPM
    e.) Picture of wavelength from BPM calc (for those that simply "read" their records ;o)
    f.) Album Art
    g.) List of used Hot Cues and Timing Positions (Like a Red Dot 03:42)

    Just some thoughts, thanks very much.

    Kind regards,

    James
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    • Hi Paul,

      Thanks for your comments, it is good to know that other customers are actually talking to Algoriddim about this sort of thing. Having used the iDJ Pro with Djay now for almost a year I think it's about time that this is sorted out. There are not enough updates to the core application, and what has come out has been of little to zero interest to me.

      I have commited to using the iDJ Pro and I expect some better support for this platform, given the two-year partnership with Numark.

      I have seen many ideas/requests on this forum that have simply gone unanswered or have not been implemented. Algoriddim had better buck their ideas up in terms of improving the experience for the iDJ Pro or else I will start looking at alternative solutions. They have had enough time and suggestions via this forum.

      Thanks again for persisting with them on this ridiculously simple issue of "what the hell track am I playing?"

      Cheers

      James
    • Hi James,

      Exactly! Loading the wrong track can totally destroy a mix so being able to see an entire track title is probably the most basic task that any DJ software must be able to perform.

      It comes down to whether or not Algoriddm is committed to supporting the core functionality of this product in a robust manner. The "features" that I see rolling by in recent software updates are mostly new bells and whistles aimed at the fluff market. It is very discouraging that this fundamental, core issue has not been addressed in a timely manner.

      My understanding is that iDJ Pro works exclusively with djay, is that correct? I'd be interested in hearing what other DJ software options you are pursuing.

      Best,
      Paul
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  • Definately get rid of album and replace it with the song key/note
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  • Please make an option to configure tracklist view on IDJPRO !!!!!
    It is very difficult to choose songs when the tittle are cut !!!!
    Since this problem... some update... but nothing !!!
    A lot of people talk about this BIG PROBLEM !!!

    You'd like Djay & IdjPro being professionnal so ...
    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE !!! MAKE AN UPDATE !!!

    I am going to insist until the problem is not solved !

    THX
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  • i agree totally whit these guys...please do anything to improve this item....
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  • Hi,

    I have since 2 weeks the new Version of the djay App for ipad and iPhone.
    Thank you for the new features and for the great App.

    But one thing i miss and i find it very important.

    I have about 5000 songs on my pad. So it is nessesary, i can find easily the songs. You have many possibilities to list and select the songs to load them.

    But why i can't select, search and sort by the Field comment or rating. So i had my own classification to load my songs.

    I Don't understand, why djay, iTunes and the most other Apps don't have Access to These Fields. The information Must be there in the database, because some Apps can select this fields, for example "smartplaylist"

    Perfect will be, if i can edit the list like iTunes on the PC. There i can change the fields, they will be displayed, i can change the order and width of a collum.

    I hope that you can understand my problem and my description.
    I also hope, that you have a solution for this Problem.

    Thanks and have a nice day

    Christian
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    Total agree. I spend a Lot of days to maintenance informations in the comment Field. Add the access to the comment row.
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  • I’m frustrated
    I totally agree with all the comments above. The ratings columns is really important for djs who spend their time rating their music, and right now you can not even see the rating of a song. If you create a playlist but you want to sort your music in the playlist by genre, you cannot do it. There is definitely a lot of work to be done on the Library Management side for the djay application. I hope the djay developers address this issues soon.
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    Recently picked up a Numark iDJ Pro and I want to chime in with an agreement about the narrow view being a problem.

    One "low hanging fruit" suggestion that would be very helpful and hopefully very easy to implement: in Playlist view, it would be nice to be able to collapse/shrink/hide the list of playlists taking up valuable screen real estate. I imagine many DJs keep playlists specific to gigs, and would like to just pick a playlist and then hide the list.
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  • That is definitely a great idea.

    Would like to also see a rating feature - I would love to tag some songs as don't play unless u wish to close the set in 10 seconds.

    A lot would be solved with us being able to control the size of separate fields, maybe make them in to floating windows which could also be dispersed to other desktops.
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  • So, everybody is saying the same thing. When will Algoriddm respond to customer feedback and make the entire track title visible?

    While I'm here, there are a couple of other questions I've been trying to find answers for:

    I would like to purchase a Pioneer controller and have a couple of questions:

    I was looking at the Pioneer DDJ-WEG03 and all of their DDJ-WEG models and they will not accommodate the 12.9-inch iPad Pro as the opening in the unit is only 10" wide. Are you aware of any partnering efforts between Algoriddm and Pioneer to address this gap? Display-wise, Djay Pro works better on the iPad Pro which does not fit in the DDJ-WEG03.

    The DDJ-SR is an excellent model, but is not listed as being compatible with the Djay Pro for the iPad, only the Mac version. Will there ever be iPad support for Djay on the higher end Pioneer controllers?

    What are the top high-end controllers that will work with the iPad version of Djay Pro?
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    Has anyone been successful at multiple column sorts?
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  • I've come to the conclusion that Algorithm is strictly aiming for the non-professional with djay. They care less about it's robustness than bells and whistles to attract the casual user.


    If someone is just livening up a house party, who cares if the wrong song is played because you can't see the whole title. Professional use is another thing entirely.


    Hopefully as the iPad crosses further into Mac territory, Serato will release for that platform.
    • Actually - I hope you are not right and Algoriddim eventually listens and understands what is needed by their users.

      I think for the "hobby party DJs" they can even stick to the free version to play around. Plus there are enough fancy features now. From my point of view it is now about stability and handling of large libraries and making the life of the DJs easier to manage this huge amount of songs.

      If you want to get serious, there is no way around some of the features mentioned here. It is basically also the only thing that I would blame Algoriddim for - the actual "player" part of the software works well and is fine.

      Let's keep our fingers crossed!
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  • Hi there,

    I want to thank you all for your great input. 
    We are always helpful for getting in detail explanations of features or improvements our software is lacking.
    Our goal is to keep the user interface as simple and intuitive as possible. Also we are always gathering for possible changes and software updates. As this topic is getting a lot of attention, I pushed this feature internally and it would be great if you guys,
    can continue sharing your feedback and thoughts about library management topics in this thread, I assure you they are at our agenda.

    Cheers,Lukas E. 
    • Lucas,

      When is an entire track title going to be made visible? There should be a pop-up or scroll feature for this.

      Currently there is no way to differentiate between two or more long track titles having identical characters except for the suffix.

      As the product stands, you have to pick one and then hope for the best. DJ's often use long titles to differentiate versions or remixes. We tend to keep these characters to the rightmost position so that a track name sort keeps different versions of the same track grouped together.

      I have had this request in the queue for YEARS. This is very basic stuff that is not an issue on Traktor's iPad DJ software.

      Is there any chance that you will fix this problem?

      -Paul
    • I still have not received any response from Algorithm regarding this problem.
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    I recently wrote to algoriddim to suggest the ability to sort using multiple columns. I recently received an email from Alex @ algoriddim and suggested I repost to try and garner a renewed interest. Hopefully this will start to gain some traction.

    I feel there should be two methods to sort column. One in the preferences section that will default the column or columns that you would want to sort by. The second would be by clicking on the column headers in the record case. I know in Virtual DJ you would click the column in the reverse order. So if you want to sort by Artists and Title, you would select Title first then the Artist.

    I'm optimistic that this will be a future enhancement for day pro. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
    • Would like to see that as well! Probably it would also be great to define which columns are displayed and the general font size.

      On iOS it would be great if there is a possibility to change the font size for the library, this would allow e.g. to display another column (like year, genre, ...) and give some more overview.
      iOS supports dynamic text - however dj pro does not react on that. From my point of view it would be sufficient for the library view to have this feature.
    • Agree totally. It's important to display *any* of the iTunes meta data within the window of user selectable columns. Two essential items are track play count & last played date. This data allows us to mix up the music, especially if we're playing on a regular weekly basis or more!
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  • I would love to see the comment field in djay Pro for iOS and make it sortable.

    I use the traktor keychecker to set my comment field (https://youtu.be/aka5eOd-Wq0).

    so all my comment fields are key - bpm with added zeros if required like this:
    07A - 120.00
    10B - 090.40

    etc. I can use this fine on djay for MacOS, but not on iOS because it wont show me the comment field.
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  • Another comment regarding search and library management, hope I'm right here - if not, please tell me and I open a seperate proposal.

    Currently dj pro on iPad does not show the search results as it shows you the normal list of tracks (in artist, album or playlist view) - it shows only a small pop-in below the search box.

    This really sucks, because the tiny little search result pop-in that is used for search results is too small. Also it lacks of details about the song. Often there are quite a few mixes, versions - to differentiate those information like genre, length of song or the full name are vital.

    If think this shouldn't be so hard to achieve. Would be great if we could see this in a future update.
    • Excellent point as well. An effective way for this to work is using live search, which many Mac applications use (e.g: console). Simply, whatever is typed shows matching items in the main playlist window, rather than results window. No need for any constrained dropdown window. As stated before the main window also needs the ability to show whatever iTunes fields the user wants.
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  • Some excellent suggestions here.

    A search filter would be great. If I'm viewing a specific playlist or artist and execute a search, return results should be restricted to the playlist or artist I'm viewing.

    I'm referencing djay Pro for iPad.
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  • Any news on this topic?

    Custom tag columns display will be best idea IMHO: people are storing customised info in tags; for example, I use mp3tag software to enter information in ALBUM tag that has camelot key, BPM etc.

    Why is hard to make library browsing with custom columns/layout? It will be useful for everybody
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  • Seeing how this is now implemented on the big version (Pro 2 on Mac) I hope they will finally do something similar in the next iPad version.

    Hopefully with a surprise demo when the new iPads will be revealed later this month?
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  • Well, I was almost right...

    "I watched the iPad Pro drive a 5K display out of DJay Pro, and it can now support an extended display, while previous iPads just mirrored."

    https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/30/1...
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  • So the new version has better filtering options. One question though: it would be far more useful if searching would include key matching instead of simply using the exact same key. And I hope this won't take another 6 years since we're now on the subscription model and all that...
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  • More room for improvement: the filters are simply stacked (AND). This is fine unless you're using the same type of criteria. In that case using 'OR' would be preferred.

    E.g. I want to search for key 'Bm' and 'Em'. Right now the result set would be non-existent as there are no songs with both keys. Well, doh.

    Activating two identical filter-types should be inclusive or deactivate the other condition as it makes no sense in its current implementation.
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