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midi learn on iPad

There are a slew of controllers I wish were supported (faderfox in particular), midi learn for iPad would make that possible! Another approach if midi learn on ipad will never happen, would be to create midi mapping on OSX and transfer a config file over.

I do feel like support for more midi controllers is necessary, Numark iDJ Live doesn't even have 3 band eq!
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  • Any update on this? I just picked up a Reloop Beatpad, and have managed to remap some of the functions in Djay Pro (to allow me to make use of the Queue, in Library preview, etc) to mirror what is possible with the Beatpad 2, but would love to be be able to do the same with Djay 2 running on my iPad Air (e.g. not map a whole new controller, just tweak the existing mapping).
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    I would pay some small upgrade fee for the ability to have midi learn/custom mapping but dropping money on one of their low-quality sponsored controllers? Never ever going to happen.
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  • Midi learn and enable wireless midi controllers like Blueboard, would make
    this app much better. I will go other apps if they do not consider midi learn.
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  • This thread's only been going 2+ years....do the math. They won't implement it while they have tie-ups with hardware makers so you might as well move on.
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    Maybe someone could make a facebook page called "midi learn vjay"? Also this could be a great opportunity for a smart programmer to start his own app, with similar functions as vJay, and implement midi learn. Maybe that programmer can become very succesful because most of vJay users will move to the new app.
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    The one app that I actually WANT to ditch my laptop for, and its locked down to some of the worst controllers on the market.

    C'mon guys, you have the cleanest interface, IMHO the best performance, easiest library browsing, 4k freaking video mixing !!! And yet, the app is being crippled by integration only to "toy" controllers. Most of which would be considered turds aimed at kids and none (except beatpad) would be allowed near a "real" dj box or considered as a serious alternative by a club dj.

    Please please PLEASE integrate some form of Midi Learn no matter how "rough" .. the software is already there, the hardware is all out there, its down to you guys to give us that one little bit of code that would allow us to bring the ipad into the clubs as a serious alternative audio visual experience.

    So close, yet so far ....
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    • Yep it would be...... about 6ft across hehe :P
    • Most people don't realise you *can* create .djayMidiMapping XML files (either with djay Pro on Mac/PC, or manually in a text editor) and transfer them to your iPad to enable custom MIDI mappings. I've done it with a bunch of controllers for both djay 2 and djay pro on iPad and it works great!
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  • Anyone got his to work with a beatpad? I have a modified midi file to allow 4 deck control ... Works finr on my mac but when i try it on my ipad it doesnt recognise it.
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  • yes, come on already!!!! i would absolutely prefer djay, plus ipad, plus a decent, solid controller - and NO LAPTOP...

    seems like the djay pro app has no way of utilizing 4 decks with any controller for the ipad??? or am I mistaken?
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    I agree, it would be nice to controle Djay Pro on iPad, with ANY midi controler (any midi keyboard, etc...) #midilearn
    Waiting for an update...
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  • I don't have a Mac, so I'm having to manually edit midi files, taking a working djay mapping and hacking it about to map to my Faderfox DJ44 (a beautiful controller btw).

    I've only attempted mapping one deck, simply because it takes time! I've created the mapping file, and popped it into the filesharing part of djay 2 for my iPad...however unfortunately it doesn't read the mapping file and instantly displays the 'unsupported midi device' error when starting djay. None of the controls can be triggered via the DJ44 so I'm guessing something's wrong with the mapping.

    I think I have the endpointName set correctly (to Faderfox DJ44), the filename is named Faderfox_DJ44.djayMidiMapping...the thing I'm wondering is whether the USBID tag at the top has to be a specific ID for the controller?

    Is this the VID/PID of the controller? In which case it's very short...not the usual 9 characters you see in this tag for midimappings. Does anyone else have a DJ44 that they could upload even just the basic of mappings for so that I can edit?

    In-app mapping would be so much easier!
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    • The mapping is coming along slowly, but nicely...need to work on the loop bits.
      My main issue is trying to get the VU LEDs mapped...however I think this is a common complaint even if you're mapping via the Mac app.

      If anyone has a mapping where you have got the VU LEDs or even if you've got an official Algoriddim mapping that I could refer to that would be grand! I know that Warren (Algoriddim support) has dropboxed mappings before...here's hoping.
    • I have the VU LEDs mapped for my controller. Use `turntable1.monoMeter`. there's also a progress meter: `turntable1.display.songProgress`
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  • I’m Disappointed
    Would like to use Hercules RMX2 with djay pro on ipad. Works with djay pro for mac, so why not with ipad??
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    I know you're all trying your best and I honestly wish you luck but I'm unsubbing from updates and this forum, it's torturous...they're never going to implement midi learn while they're trying to sell their plastic crap toy controllers. They apparently don't care about their customers and this forum in the slightest. I mailed them and they said 'hey post on the forum, we love to hear from users'. What a literal waste of time.
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    • Have you tried extracting the App itself from within OSX and either:

      A) Modify the built in mapping and re-compress or:
      B) Simply just deleting the stock mapping altogether, recompress the app and use document sharing as per normal to load any new mappings.

      In both cases delete the app from the ipad first and sync-load the modified version.

      I think either method should work as you aren't modifying any core files of the application and it might make it a lil easier to sync mapping modifications if needed - not to mention latest updates to iOS would no longer be an issue ;)
    • I would definitely try that if I hadn't already had jailbroken Iphones & iPads going back to the 3GS .

      I was contemplating getting into recompiling as I want to use KODI (banned app on non jailbroken devices) on my iPhone 6+ and that's not jailbroken yet as its on 9.2 and I don't use it with djay.
      It requires the use of XCODE 7 for Mac (don't have a Mac), and I deleted VMware off my pc once I got my wego (1) mapped out, and since then I modified the files right up to wego 3 manually.

      Did you try the mod yourself,? I assumed that there would be a chksum in ios apps that would detect even if one byte had been charged and refuse to run?
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    I tried it with Djay already and it did sync and run on the ipad with a modified vestax file added to the mapping folder, I don't have a supported controller to check if deleting the file and adding one via doc sharing would work to replace the stock mapping though.
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    • Pretty straight forward, thank you for the info!
    • Sorry to resurrect this, but I've carried out all the steps mentioned above to the letter, but when I try to install the edited version via iTunes sync, the app loads up to about 8 o'clock progress and then the icon disappears from my iPad, note the icon appears without the DJay icon graphic, it's just plain. I tried it with another random app and it loaded up fine.

      If I delete the edited version and re-download from iTunes and sync again it installs fine.

      Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

      I'm using DJay 2 not DJay Pro if that's relevant.
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    thanks Tank Jones for the explanation and work around. i'm now using Pioneer DDJ-SX with Djay Pro v 1.0.3 on iPad Pro. works like a treat.

    Algoriddim really should add native midi mapping for the Djay Pro for iOS if they want their app to be taken seriously as a professional app.

    see screen shot below :)

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    Most of your customers who have controllers would be using 2 deck controllers as they would have started with DJay and Djay2. As you are not selling controllers, it would promote the sale of DJ pro to be able to be flexible enough to use all of its decks on controllers your customers already possess. Those who want to buy 4 deck controllers will do that, but you won't disappoint the vast majority of your existing clients who won't, this way. Most of us aren't tech savvy and can't do this ourselves. Is there a way to use Midi mapping to use existing buttons (the Shift button+ another button perhaps) to toggle between decks? It's a simple tweak that would mean a lot to your customers can move onto DJay pro and get functionality. I would happily pay for this than pay for a new controller.
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  • So thanks to info on these forums I worked out how to midi learn on the mac version of the software and then use the iTunes file share to put those midi learns onto the iPad. It then works like a charm with any controller of choice.

    Unless you want to VJ

    It works when you plug the Camera Connection kit in directly. However if you run the HDMI AV cable first and then daisy chain the camera connection kit off that into a powered hub or direct to the midi controller there is no dice.

    Does anyone have any ideas how you can midi control and output visuals at the same time off an iPad? They both work independently but not together even when you can plug both accessories into each other and do it in theory. There probably are some really good third party cables out there but a few years ago Apple went anal on all that stuff and made a bunch of these cables redundant with the error with "this accessory is not supported by this ipad"

    Cheers!
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    Running the video output via AirPlay / Apple TV is the only way I can't think of overcoming that hurdle.
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  • Should I just purchase the Reloop Mixtour? or Beatpad? Sounds like the guys from reloop greased a few wheels around Algoriddim huh?

    It work as an app developer. What are you guys trying to do? Use customers for QA testing? You guys dont have a program like "Midi Learn", to configure hardware mapping before you release the software?

    I would appreciate some help Algoriddim, as would all of the other hard working, paying customers, who purchased the app, only to feel duped as there class compliant controllers are not compatible. Do you not have a list of ALL class compliant usb dj controllers? Probably less than 100 diff controllers avail, so that doesn't sound to difficult to have someone test.
    • Mixtour or beatpad? I have both and they are quite different ...

      Mixtour is nice unit to travel with (fits in hand luggage) but a bit limited (no jog wheels) ok if you are EDM in a house party or lounge bar.

      Beatpad is a great controller ... Move versatile than the mixtour but much bigger. You can easily DJ a wedding or big party with it.
    • Cool deal. Yeah, I currently have the Mixtrack Pro 3, but looking to go with the Pioneer DDJ SB2. I dont have a mac to export the Midi map for either, so if anyone has them, that would be awesome. Also, I found the Pioneer DDJ SB2 mapping on a site and uploaded it to my dropbox, I posted to DjTech, so others can enjoy
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  • I am currently looking for mapping of the Numark Mixtrack Pro 3. If anyone has the mapping file, I would appreciate it! Thanks again
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  • If anyone can send me the mapping file for Hercules Rmx2, I would very much appreciate it. I have no access to a Mac with DJ PRO.
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  • No it does not need to be jailbroken.

    1. Open iTunes.

    2. Click View > More > Apps from the menubar.

    3. Right Click the DJay app and then hit "show in finder"

    4. Rename the File extension to .zip instead of .ipa

    5. Extract Files.

    6. Navigate to the "Payload" folder, right click and "show package contents"

    7. Now navigate to the Midi Mappings folder.

    8. Delete the Default mapping you wish to remove.

    9. Re-zip the extracted main folder and remove old version.

    10. Re-name your new Zip it exactly as the old file was before (including extension)

    11. Remove the App from the Ipad / Phone manually.

    12. Sync Your Device apps with iTunes.

    Well, I couldn't get this to work on DJay 2 and have just wasted my money buying DJay Pro only to find it wouldn't work with that either. It just seems like 'tampering' with it triggers something that stops iOS accepting it. Perhaps there's been updates since it worked above...or I'm doing something wrong.

    However, in amongst the latest maps I noticed a WeGO4 mapping. Probably be announced at BPM later this weekend.
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    • Just closing out the loop, it didn't work for me either, no matter what combination of files/folders I zipped. Most had a blank icon and loaded to about 8 o'clock, the nearest I got was when I zipped JUST the content which resulted in the actual DJay graphic appearing but only getting to 9 o' clock.

      I'm using the smaller iPad Pro but will give it a try on my iPhone...

      So frustrating!
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  • Hay simmo,

    How did you get your XJD to work with the iPad?
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  • I just got my djPro working on my iPad Pro with my Pioneer DDJ-SR controller.
    1. Copied the DDJ-SB mapping file found at http://maps.djtechtools.com
    2. Opened the file in TextMate on my Mac. Changed the text "DDJ-SB" to "DDJ-SR" (only cosmetic, but wanted to make sure edited files would still work
    3. Synched the file to djay Pro on my iPad using iTunes on the Mac
    4. Plugged the controller into a powered USB hub
    5. Plugged the USB Camera Connection Kit into the iPad's Lightning port
    6. Connected the Camera Connection Kit to the powered hub
    7. Turned on controller, launched djay Pro on the iPad
    8. djay automagically recognized the controller
    9. Start spinning!

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  • Has anyone successfully mapped a Xone K2 for use with the iPad app?
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  • Finally got round to mapping my K2 to the iPad app. Works an absolute treat! I was using a Mixtour before but always had a few gripes with it. No longer an issue now I've got this working.

    Setup:
    iPad Mini 2
    Xone K2
    Apple iPad Camera adapter
    Maplin powered USB hub

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  • Work great with Ddj-SB2 with procédure descripted on previous page! Thanks!
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  • Works great with faderfox dj44 to iPhone with djay pro. But vu meters and loop length display doesn't work. Big ups to djhombre for the mapping.
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  • Victor, which apple adapter you use ? It charge iphone ?
    Regards
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  • If implemented, this feature will solve many many of the requests in these forums, you know... just map it !
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  • Solved my iPad mapping problem: downloaded DJ Pro for Windows in trial mode. Made a copy of the RMX2 mapping and edited this in Dj Pro to suit my needs.
    Transferred the mapping file to my iPad via iTunes 'et voila': works as a charm.
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  • Thank you very much for the extensive guide!
    I've got my Launchpad S and Pioneer DJM-250mkII working on my iPad with the Apple camera adapter kit 2016. However the audio output is on the iPad jack stick even though the mixer has an internal soundtrack and splits the channels perfectly with the mac. Does anyone have an idea of how I change the audio output settings? Cheers
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    Pioneer mixers aren’t class compliant audio cards so no chance to see it working on an iOS device unless Pioneer itself creates an app that incorporates the audio card driver. If you want a class compliant audio mixer I suggest you either the Rane 57mkii or the the Mixars Duo. And de if any day Algoriddim adds external mixer routing you won’t even needn’t a mapping as it will just route audio on each channel and let you use analog EQs/filters.

    See here my feature request for external audio routing mode :
    https://c.getsatisfaction.com/algorid...

    You can vote for it if you’re interested.
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  • Thank you very much for the fast response and the recommendations! My work around will be 2 jack sticks from the mono splitter.
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  • If helpful to somebody, I got my Djay Pro working on my iPad Pro with my Numark Mixtrack Pro 3.
    Mapping file is available here: https://maps.djtechtools.com/mappings...

    And I used the procedure described by Darren a few posts above to upload file to the iPad, Thanks Darren!.
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    • Resolume or anything else even.

      The raw power is there at this point in time which benchmarks on the iPhone faster than an i5 MacBook (which is perfectly capable of putting on a stunning visual show)- it really seems like a missed opportunity for someone.

      Visual Clip selection and library thumbnail browsing is one of the areas where a touchscreen really interface shines and actually creates a solution for the user rather than just the "convenience" of a portable device which essentially is just acting only as a portable and powerful all-in-one PC in most cases (Djay included).
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  • I have found a solution for djay pro and DDJ-SR with an iPad Pro 10.5. It works perfectly with full functionality. I am running the latest iOS 11.0.3, macOS 10.13, iTunes 12.7 and Pioneer firmware is up to date.

    Here's my experience.

    1. I plugged the DDJ-SR into my iMac.
    2. Opened djay pro and selected "Configure Pioneer DDJ-SR" from the the MIDI Menu.
    3. In the dropdown I selected 'options/duplicate' and djay pro added "Edit" to the duplicate name.
    4 Selected the "Edit" copy and the share sheet icon lit up and I selected to open it in the finder.
    5. In the finder I copied "Pioneer DDJ-SR Edit" and pasted it on my desktop.
    6. I renamed the desktop copy to "Pioneer DDJ-SR".
    7. In iTunes I selected my iPad Pro and from the tree on the left selected "File Sharing".
    8. Selected "djay pro" from the apps list and added the file "Pioneer DDJ-SR" from my desktop. You can either drag it onto the files section or scroll down and select "add".
    9. Synced up, reconnected to "Apple USB 3.0 Camera kit" and Voila! Full functionality

    Note: I originally bought a generic lightning to USB/lightning cable from Amazon for $15. It was a mistake. The only recommended solution is to buy an Apple Lightning to USB3 Camera Kit adapter. ($39.99). You will also need a Powered USB hub. I picked up a powered USB3 hub at Best Buy for (29.99).

    Good luck! I can imagine this process works with most controllers. Give it a try and leave a comment on your results!
    • Hey Kristian, would you be able to assist me configuring my Pioneer S9 mixer and CDJ 900 with DJAY Pro? I was previously using pulselocker with Serato but they are no longer integrated as of Nov 10th. Can you kindly help me out? With the following?
      1. Mapping
      2. I have CDJ 800 and CDJ 900 however 800's are not supported by DJay pro. Can you help me configure one CDJ 900 to work with DJay pro. I would appreciate it. You can also email me at gqhustle2@gmail.com.
      Thank you.
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  • Hello Everyone I am looking for some help.

    I am wanting to remap my Reloop mixtour. But it not working out for me. I have remapped on my mac in djay Pro. That bit works fine, but getting it to work on the iPad is proving no go keeps reverting back native mappin.

    I have gone through the process of deleting the mapping file in the djay Pro ipa file. But know it does not work with the new file shared app.

    Any suggestions.

    Thanks in advance.

    Jamus
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