# Really ? Are there no Modifier in MIDI mappings available. **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions\ **Tags:** macOS, iOS\ **Created:** [June 11, 2022, 8:10am UTC](https://community.algoriddim.com/t/really-are-there-no-modifier-in-midi-mappings-available/16795 "2022-06-11T08:10:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Aquadics](https://community.algoriddim.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Aquadics](https://community.algoriddim.com/u/Aquadics)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 8:10am UTC](https://community.algoriddim.com/t/really-are-there-no-modifier-in-midi-mappings-available/16795/1 "2022-06-11T08:10:34Z")
I am just wondering if I am missing something or if this is really not an available functionality in MIDI mappings. I would like that a certain mapping is only valid under certain conditions. If you know Traktor Pro this is covered with modifiers. I would see MIDI mappings in Djay very limited without such possibility. Unfortunately I had first to start a payed subscription to find out that this is not possible ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Slak\_Jaw](https://community.algoriddim.com/user_avatar/community.algoriddim.com/slak_jaw/32/6517_2.png) [@Slak\_Jaw](https://community.algoriddim.com/u/Slak_Jaw)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 3:05pm UTC](https://community.algoriddim.com/t/really-are-there-no-modifier-in-midi-mappings-available/16795/2 "2022-06-11T15:05:48Z")
Unfortunately, djay doesn’t have MIDI modifiers yet like in Traktor. There’s a suggestion thread here from 2020 where you can vote for this feature. The most advanced thing you can do with MIDI mappings from within the djay mapping editor is to assign the same control to multiple functions. > [@Modifiers support for MIDI mappings](https://community.algoriddim.com/t/modifiers-support-for-midi-mappings/12403): > > I would like to be able to use modifiers, when working with the midi mappings manager. This has been requested in another post: Digging a bit, it seems to already work somehow in the mappings engine, only lacking UI. This is an excerpt from the MIXTOUR mapping, related to the use of the Filter knob, which can also become an FX knob, if the FX “switch” is ON. The knob is simply sending “CC 4” but the mapping does different things if the “FX” switch is on or off: \ \keyPath\ … ---
**Author:** ![Aquadics](https://community.algoriddim.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Aquadics](https://community.algoriddim.com/u/Aquadics)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 4:03pm UTC](https://community.algoriddim.com/t/really-are-there-no-modifier-in-midi-mappings-available/16795/3 "2022-06-11T16:03:23Z")
Hi @Slak_Jaw thanks for letting me know. I just wanted to vote on it but unfortunately it is already closed. I would have said there is not much hope if its already requested since 2 years ago. Should not have been to difficult to offer such a basic functionality in an app which is considered to use AI to split music into stems. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Kaloyan](https://community.algoriddim.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/67e7ee/32.png) [@Kaloyan](https://community.algoriddim.com/u/Kaloyan)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 3:20am UTC](https://community.algoriddim.com/t/really-are-there-no-modifier-in-midi-mappings-available/16795/4 "2022-06-12T03:20:27Z")
It’s in the XML and actually has it. Just no UI for setting it up … Pity. Open a request. I will vote on it. Perhaps this time it will get proper attention. ---
**Author:** ![Aquadics](https://community.algoriddim.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Aquadics](https://community.algoriddim.com/u/Aquadics)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 7:25am UTC](https://community.algoriddim.com/t/really-are-there-no-modifier-in-midi-mappings-available/16795/5 "2022-06-12T07:25:37Z")
Hi @Kaloyan, I did not dig deeper in the XML for now but if I know there is a chance to make it work I will try first. We don’t know how long it will take if this feature will be included in the UI and I guess since it needs to be done for macOS, iOS, Android, Windows it may take some longer. I will let you know how it worked out for me and may open a request at a later time if required. Thanks !!! ---
**Author:** ![Slak\_Jaw](https://community.algoriddim.com/user_avatar/community.algoriddim.com/slak_jaw/32/6517_2.png) [@Slak\_Jaw](https://community.algoriddim.com/u/Slak_Jaw)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 11:11pm UTC](https://community.algoriddim.com/t/really-are-there-no-modifier-in-midi-mappings-available/16795/6 "2022-06-13T23:11:11Z")
There’s already a request for this feature over here: > [@Traktor-style Modifiers and Conditions?](https://community.algoriddim.com/t/traktor-style-modifiers-and-conditions/11849): > > If Algoriddim introduced a mapping editor similar to the one in Traktor, which NO OTHER DJ software has right now besides them, that would be a game changer. I would love to be able to use one button for multiple actions using conditions like in Traktor, or modifiers with different values that could be used to activate multiple decks, cue points or samplers. If they did this, I wouldn’t see much reason to stay with Traktor given that Traktor Pro 3 still doesn’t have any streaming service suppo… ---
**Author:** ![Aquadics](https://community.algoriddim.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Aquadics](https://community.algoriddim.com/u/Aquadics)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 5:14am UTC](https://community.algoriddim.com/t/really-are-there-no-modifier-in-midi-mappings-available/16795/7 "2022-06-14T05:14:06Z")
Thanks @Slak_Jaw, just voted on it. Lets see how many years it will take and if the feature will one day arrive 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Anders](https://community.algoriddim.com/user_avatar/community.algoriddim.com/anders/32/2628_2.png) [@Anders](https://community.algoriddim.com/u/Anders)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 1:54pm UTC](https://community.algoriddim.com/t/really-are-there-no-modifier-in-midi-mappings-available/16795/8 "2022-06-15T13:54:45Z")
djay currently offers the ability to map one modifier key available under: - General \> Controller Shift Key Once you map this to your “SHIFT” button, you can then add extra mappings for controls simply by holding the SHIFT button and pressing/moving the respective control. ---
**Author:** ![Aquadics](https://community.algoriddim.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Aquadics](https://community.algoriddim.com/u/Aquadics)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 2:58pm UTC](https://community.algoriddim.com/t/really-are-there-no-modifier-in-midi-mappings-available/16795/9 "2022-06-15T14:58:00Z")
Thanks for the tip @Anders. ---
**Author:** ![Kaloyan](https://community.algoriddim.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/67e7ee/32.png) [@Kaloyan](https://community.algoriddim.com/u/Kaloyan)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 6:20pm UTC](https://community.algoriddim.com/t/really-are-there-no-modifier-in-midi-mappings-available/16795/10 "2022-06-20T18:20:35Z")
@Anders, thanks! Yet, most controller have two shift buttons on each side, which are actually different buttons for each of the decks. Additionally, with layer change (Deck 1/3 vs 2/4) we get even more Shift buttons per single controller. I have Denon MC7000, but I remember other controllers having this multiple Shift buttons. “Controller Left Shift” + “Controller Right Shift” would be a very simple approach indeed. Ultimately, Modifiers & states are the most powerful way to go. Fact is that it’s supported in the mapping engine and in the XMLs. Just no UI for setting and evaluating modifiers and states. ---
**Author:** ![Slak\_Jaw](https://community.algoriddim.com/user_avatar/community.algoriddim.com/slak_jaw/32/6517_2.png) [@Slak\_Jaw](https://community.algoriddim.com/u/Slak_Jaw)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://community.algoriddim.com/t/really-are-there-no-modifier-in-midi-mappings-available/16795/11 "2022-06-20T19:54:30Z")
Exactly! I could be wrong, but I believe that was the point of this original post. Not just a Shift Modifier. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://community-assets.algoriddim.com/original/1X/12708751d75e1f1f991dd837f457a420f9b47c93.svg) [@system](https://community.algoriddim.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://community.algoriddim.com/t/really-are-there-no-modifier-in-midi-mappings-available/16795/12 "2022-07-20T19:54:33Z")
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