hi there, just a little suggestion here, so for transition tracks, or tracks with multiple BPM, can we get the first part of the tracks BPM is displayed on the library instead of BPM from the last part?
for example, i have a transition song that is 94 BPM intro / the first part, and then transition into 70 BPM for the second part (the rest of the song). for now in djay library, this track is listed as 70 BPM. i think it will be more sense to list this track as 94 BPM. so when sorting by BPM, its listed around the same tempo to mix and match.
well, rekordbox does this in their library.
thankyou, sorry for my bad english, i hope you understand my point.
some of the “multiple bpm” tracks show the first part bpm.
like this track nokia by drake, first part is 126 and goes down to 106 in the middle to finish. tagged as 126 bpm, which is good, because when sorted by bpm, this song is listed around that bpm for mixing.
now imagine your doing a dj set, current playing tracks is 86 bpm, sorted library by bpm to find matching bpm tracks, load this track and boom its 128 bpm, it doesnt make sense to tag this track as 86.
Hi @holzakontra, djay assigns the most dominant BPM to the song when multiple BPMs exist. This is the BPM whose grid correlates the strongest with the actual beat grid.
Hi @holzakontra, dominant typically means the longest part of the track. I checked several different remixes of that Nokia track and there seem to be some inconsistencies with some of them as the 2 BPMs are pretty evenly split in duration. I have shared this with our dev team to see if they can make some additional adjustments to the logic.
How would you prefer the logic to behave?
For example, if a song has a short, 8 bar or less intro, then a BPM change, would you want to use the BPM of the second part or still the first part?
What should be the cutoff duration for not using the starting BPM? 4 bars, 8 bars, 16 bars?
What if the second half is slightly longer than the first half, would you want to use the starting BPM instead?
for me, first part tempo is more important, because thats the part i use for mixing / beat mixing. so i want that to be tagged / showed on bpm collumn. doesnt matter if its only a short intro of transition tracks.
The BPM in the search/browse should be based on where the Start Cue is set. If one isn’t set, as suggested, the intro BPM are certainly more logical than the outro or average BPM.
@androphonic wow, that never cross my mind. that would be a great feature if it could be implemented. but if that cant be added, yes, showing intro bpm will be more logical.
A workaround could be to have a “transition tracks” playlist then prefix all the file names with the start and end BPM, E.G. 101-120 or 175-130….. that way you could sort and always easily find the track you need based on navigating to the files that cover the BPM you’re currently playing at.
@STU-C@DjLemart yeps thats some workaround i might do. but this strengthens the opinion about first part bpm is more important to be shown on the bpm column. lets push engineering to make it default by djay
YOUR SUGGESTION:
I like how the software analyses transition files automatically, but I often still have to manually add beat markers to reset it for sorting purposes. I prefer files to be sorted by the BPM they start at, not the main BPM of the track.
I’ve noticed many downloaded transition tracks get missed because the software sorts them by the track’s overall BPM rather than the starting BPM. This makes them hard to find in a live set.
For example, if I’m playing in the 80 BPM range and have a strong transition track that starts at 80 and moves up to 120 BPM, I’ll usually miss it while mixing because I sort my playlists by BPM and the software lists that track in the 120 BPM range instead. Please can we add an option that allows these types of files to be sorted by either the starting BPM or the main BPM, so they can be surfaced correctly during a live set.
