Thanks for sharing @Brown_bkp
I noticed this only work perfectly for flx 10
Cos when i tried the same configuration on sz 2 it doesnt work well therefore i tweak the setting around on sz 2
Perfect configuration on sz2 below
Change the the scratch speed to 8.8 percent
Bend or nudge speed to 9.3 percent
I advice to check and try set your settings to the perfect ones on new controller thanks
I cant talk about Jog Wheels, but the DVS is definitely nowhere near the accuracy and reactivity of Serato.
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Thats right all of this needs to be sorted out permanently even djay should make it more better and tighter than Serato
I think that unfortunately Serato have the tech side of jog wheels/DVS boxed off, as none of the other apps are on their level. I don’t know the exact details but I can only assume it’s some kind of patented or hidden coding that they are using. And also largely the reason why the vast majority of turntablists are Serato users.
It’s been 20yrs now and still nobody has managed to rival that aspect of the software, so we can only assume there’s some kind of blocker.
Just leaving this here…
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That’s fine, im sure we can all find related videos for each software that show people doing unbelievable things, Koko does it with 7” vinyl etc etc.
None of that detracts away from the fact that doing a basic beat matched blend is a different experience between Serato and other software. After using all the different software with DVS at some point of another, I still can’t find one that has instant feedback to nudges or strokes of the platter to adjust tempo, or instant feedback to pitch changes and the ability to hold the beat in time as well as Serato does. All of them are slack, with Traktor probably being the next best in line and pretty close to Serato.
Another point to note, even a Djay ambassador was recently filmed using Serato at a gig, there might be other reasons why this happened (on someone elses PC etc) but its certainly an eye opener.
This is just a video do you know hiw much struggle behind that video also the issue here might not be noticeable on video but tou call feel the diffrence between the Djay and serato jog wheel Dont mix up things … A permanent solution is needed
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No - do you? Unless you know they struggled, why imply that they did?
IMO if guys like Invisibl Skratch Piklz are prepared to showcase djay Pro, it’s unlikely there’s a serious issue with accuracy.
Ditto with DJ Angelo. He was a scratch DJ long before working with Algoriddim.
Try it for yourself PK, do a manual beatmatch with DVS on Serato, VDJ and Djay Pro and compare them to see how they feel.
Im not lying, I have zero reason to lie about it, im just giving my findings after trying and using the software.
Can I do a decent enough DJ set on Djay with DVS, absolutely, is it as nice to work with as Serato, absolutely not.
…and I’m not accusing you of lying. I was replying to Brown_bkp, who (as the original poster) was referring to scratching with jogwheels, not beatmatching with DVS.
It’s motivated me to go ahead and record a mix with Djay anyway. So I can listen back and see how it sounds.
I need to use it with jog wheels to see how it works out in that respect, im not expecting much difference between them, as I’ve never seen or felt much in any of the others.
It’s definitely a capable scratch software from the videos we’ve all seen, although I’d like to see more of these guys using it out in the wild. Angelo smashed it up in that RP7 performance video.
You cant still dispute the fact the issue of scratch exist with Djay because i feel it and when adjusted some settings it work better but that is not a permanent fix also a lot of Djay complain about this also i didnt say Djay cant scratch there is diffrence between cant scratch and not the best compared to serato @PKtheDJ yes Djay can scratch but its a bit slower and not the best compared to serato you can tell the differences and its clear until Djay engineering team finds a solution to this
One (other?) thing that might be in play here: MIDI is by design a “slow” protocol, although MIDI-over-USB should be fast enough. The standard resolution of MIDI is also (very) low, with 7-bits CC messages (0-127). This is why HID protocol was developed, to get a much faster response and a much higher resolution.
I can imagine that Algoriddim is using some kind of generic abstraction layer to be able to support a very wide range of (MIDI) controllers, which could affect latency and/or resolution.
I know that Serato is very strict in the controllers it supports, and effectively enforces the hardware manufacturers to work in a certain way and provide their “controller data” in a certain way to become “serato certified”. This could also explain why it feels “tighter” in Serato.
But I guess only Algoriddim can explain more about their implementation.
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A well-informed submission. Totally agree
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Thats true we hope djay team find a good solution to it cos djay pro is much more better than serato in mixing and as more features
Djay automatically adjusts latency settings based on the devices used. You mentioned using Mac Catalina and iPhone 11, if possible try a newer device and see if the issue persists.
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Maybe you are right about the latency but i have tried it also on a macbook 2019 and still feels thesame … Im note saying djay doesnt scratch but it doesnt feel good compared to when you scratch with serato dj and all i want is to make scratching better and tighter than serato if possible
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Is this the Mac running Catalina? What processor and how much ram is in this computer?
I’ve been using Djay since 2016, and the scratching on Serato is definitely “tighter,” I know exactly what you’re talking about. Im a Djay fanboy for 10 years and I admit this. I think they need more hip hop DJs testing it out.
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