Dynamic / Fluid Beatgrid System

  • Device: MacBook Pro M1
  • OS: Tahoe 26.2
  • Djay Version: 5.6.2

When using Dynamic BPM I have found, with non-syncopated music, there are errors. This happens fairly often and I’ve been able to find a workaround (as you’ll see in the Example 2 video).

Although, if there is an opportunity to improve how beatgrids are generated, that would be ideal.

In videos 1& 2 you’ll see how Djay calaulates the beatgrids and how they “drift” from the true beats of the music.

In videos 3 & 4 you’ll see how another program with fluid beatgrids keeps the song on-beat, in places where Djay had mistakes.

Example 1 - Djay

Example 2 - Djay w/ workaround

Example 3 - Other DJ Platform

Example 4 - Other DJ Platform

Sharing this to see where continued innovation can take us :slight_smile: !

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Hi @gizmo, thanks for the clear explanation and comparison videos. This is very helpful. I’ve passed this onto our engineering team for further review. I’ll report back when I have more news.

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Hi again @gizmo, can you please share the actual songs from your demos here or send them to me in a DM so our engineering team can review them in more detail? Thanks!

DM delivered!

Thanks @gizmo. I’ve shared this with our engineering team.

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Hi again @gizmo, when we load the tracks you sent, we get completely different beatgrids than the ones you showed in first 2 videos. Just to be sure, could you please confirm if you manually modified the beatgrids of the tracks shown in the videos? Or are these the original beatgrids set by djay? Thanks!

Hey @slak_jaw, those are the original beat grids. I have not modified them.

My Djay settings do not have a BPM range defined - it’s currently set at None. Let me know if there are more details I can provide to assist!

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Thanks for the additional info @gizmo

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Hi again @gizmo, our engineering team has reviewed this further. Please note that not every track can be analyzed perfectly and have a perfect beat grid, especially for syncopated tracks with a dynamic beat grid. The workaround would be to set anchors manually for the downbeats.

A few updates before start this problem with bpm incorrect analysis it’s very disturbing and messy my range is also: none. Last update Djay app same results on iPad Pro M1 & MacBook Pro M1…:thinking:

Hey @Slak_Jaw , appreciate the details.

As a big fan of Djay, I’d push the team not to be satisfied with that answer.

One of the main draws for Djay is the fluid beat grid. It sometimes is problematic.

Nailing this allows for more creative and styled mixing. Less focus on BPM, more focus on creative sound.

Thanks!

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You’re welcome @gizmo. I’ll share your input with our dev team. Thanks!