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Device model : Macbook M3 Max
Version of operating system : Sequoia 15.6.1
Version of djay : 5.4.3
Hardware/controllers used : DDJ FLX-10
Summary of the issue:
First of all, I am very much surprised as to how well the FLX-10 works with Djay! But, since we are here, I found a thing that annoys me… When performing a backspin on the FLX-10 it all sounds quite well when the tension adjust dial is sligthly tuned left of the ‘middle’. When I put it to the lightest setting and I do a backspin the platter keeps spinning but djay does not detect the scratch anymore. Instead it has switched to detecting pitch bend. Effectively this means that the jog wheel is still spinning backwards (in total I guess about 8 seconds) quite fast while the track is already moving in forward position again after about 3 to 4 seconds (although a lot slower because of the pitch bend detection). When I put the dial to the heaviest setting the opposite occurs when performing a backspin: the jog wheel has stopped moving a long time while djay is still backspinning the track. This means I only can use one setting for backspins properly while I would like to have the ability to make backspins as long or short as I want using the jog tension adjust. I have CDJ-3000’s as well and on those devices it works flawlessly (it’s just one setting in the mapping, ‘scratch mode’ I guess it’s called), just like using them as usual with a USB drive in. Is this some limitation that Pioneer puts on mapping their controllers to third party software? Or is it just a shortcoming in the mapping / implementation? Would love to hear your thoughts! Thanks in advance
How to reproduce the issue:
Get your hands on a FLX-10, run it through algoriddim djay and mess around with backspins with different jog tension settings. You’ll see what I mean.
Hi @caster25, welcome to the Community! Thanks for the details about the issue and your setup - this is very helpful. Since this sounds repeatable, can you please capture and share a short video of this? Thanks!
Hey, I just went a little overboard on the ‘short’ in ‘short video’, but I think this captures it perfectly. I also made the comparison with how it should work as I have a CDJ-3000 hooked up, controlling the same deck.
The keen I may have noticed that the hot cues weren’t lighting up on the flx-10. This apparently happens when you have Rekordbox still running in the background . The jog issue still remains when Rekordbox is exited though, as is to be expected.
Thanks for the video @caster25. I believe the main difference between the CDJ and the FLX10 is the CDJ uses HID mode. Either way, I have passed this onto our hardware team for further review and comment. I’ll report back when I have more news. Thanks!
Hi again @caster25, our team was able to replicate this and is investigating options for a potential fix. When I have more news, I’ll share it here. Thanks!
I would like to add that I’m also experiencing this issue.
It feels to me like as soon as you take your finger from the platter, the connection stops and the spinback slows down by a pre determined time. Regardless of how fast the platter is still spinning. The speed of the spinback is determined by the “launch velocity” of the spin back.
My thoughts are that when the platter is activated, it should “latch” on as long as there is movement in the jogwheel, it will release when the jogwheel movement = 0
This is happening on my REV5 as well. It was noticeable before, but somewhere, an update really made it worse. I’m talking like 3 beats before it starts playing again, but really really slow like I am pitch bending hard. I have mapped backspins to my censor button, but it sounds really bad.
Hi @SpEd, please provide full details for your setup. Did you recently update your Windows 11 OS by chance?
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Thanks @SpEd. Since this sounds repeatable, can you please capture and share a short screen recording of the issue to help clarify what’s happening? Thanks!
So I assume there is still no fix for this issue?
its been 7 months now
I just paid for subscription after a trial and was really happy with how the software was working, then when I tried to do a set and spin back I noticed this issue also (ddj flx 10)
It ruined the set
Tried to search for a fix online which led me here,
are we any closer to a fix on this issue?
. The jog issue still remains when Rekordbox is exited though, as is to be expected.
