Reverbs could definitely be improved to make them actually usable. Because of this I’m literally stuck using delay and a few others. I’m aware of VST plugins but it would be great if the software could offer better options.
I asked for help and recommendations on this in Reddit and everyone seemed to be in agreement that what’s included reverb-wise is pretty terrible.
Hi @Reign712, thanks for the suggestion. We have several Reverb FX in djay already. Plus these can all be routed to specific STEMs as needed (Drums, Harmony, Vocals).
Thanks. I’m aware of all the reverbs the software offers (a lot of them sound VERY similar) they’re just not that good or usable and the sentiment seems to be shared by the Reddit djay community.
As a producer for over 20 years I’m truly familiar with reverb so offered this suggestion as it would really make a difference for our mixes. I’m almost stuck with delay only as the reverbs are just not that good or useable and my gut check on Reddit let me know that it wasn’t just me as others felt the same so made the suggestion as like everyone else out here, we’re invested in seeing your software be the best it could possibly be.
Okay great @Reign712. Thanks for the follow up. It sounds like you know a lot about Reverbs given your extensive experience. To ensure that our dev team understands specifically what you’re looking for, can you please eleborate on what makes a “decent, usable reverb”? If you could share specific examples of Reverb FX that you like this would be very helpful. Perhaps some of the users in that Reddit topic shared some good examples as well that you can share here? Thanks again!
The ones on the Rane One Mk II are pretty decent. I can’t quite put my finger on it but the ones in djay sound a bit sterile and uninteresting…maybe add some warmth or something. All rooms sound different so it’s like the reverbation you’d get back from bathroom tile vs wood paneling. It’s so subjective that’s why (again) I checked with Reddit first.
Someone literally had a post saying the same thing today. Just search reverb in the djay forum and you’ll get a clearer picture. Wouldn’t let me post the links here. Thanks.
To be more specific, this is mainly about Melodic Techno and the Keinemusik style of mixing, where reverb is used very subtly to add space and tension rather than as a big audible effect. A good reference for the workflow would be the Teile Revolo approach, where a clean, airy reverb sits above the mix and can be ridden musically during builds. In Rekordbox you can at least imitate this to some extent by using a reverb with a low cut or damping, especially on melodic elements or vocals, and the difference in control is very noticeable. Rekordbox is not ideal either, but it shows how important basic reverb shaping is for this style of music. I’d encourage doing a direct A/B comparison on a melodic track with vocals, using a low-cut reverb in Rekordbox versus the current djay reverb. The limitations of djay’s reverb become obvious very quickly in that context. This could actually be a great opportunity for djay to stand out, since many DJs are looking at Revolo-style workflows, and a high-quality in-software solution would be a strong argument for djay Pro.
Okay, thanks for the additional info @Reign712
Hi @marius218, welcome to the Community! Thanks for the details - this is very helpful. I’ll share this with our dev team for consideration.
@Reign712 and @marius218 are you aware that you can also adjust the Parameter slider and Dry/Wet for the Reverb FX when using Manual FX? Perhaps these controls will help to achieve the desired results in the meantime?
Yes, I’ve tried that, but for me it’s only really relevant if the effect can be controlled directly from the controller. With the GRV section of the DDJ-GRV6 that part is technically possible, but even after playing around with the parameter slider and Dry/Wet, I can’t achieve the kind of result I’m looking for. It still doesn’t translate into a musical, usable reverb for melodic or vocal material. Also, while STEM routing is a nice idea, in practice it noticeably degrades the audio quality, which makes it less useful in a club context. A simple frequency-based low cut or high cut option within the reverb itself would be much more effective and transparent than routing to STEMs.
Okay, thanks for checking and for the additional info. I’ll share this with our dev team.
Any Feedback from your Team?
Hi @marius218, thanks for checking in. I don’t have any news to share from the team regarding this suggestion.
I’m also one that would like to see a better Reverb.
Serato Reverb from my experience is one of the few item to still have a better feeling than DJay Pro.
I’m now using the cold reverb and I’m routing it just to voice and melody and in this way I found to have a result that is almost satisfying in most cases for open format, still not great for house and edm.
It’s difficult to explain what could make the reverb better, I’m not really good at that for effects, I just wanted to second this suggestion as I feel it as well, the output sound doesn’t feel like a pro effect.
Thanks for the feedback @Francecorre. I’ve passed this onto the devs.
any news?
Hi @marius218, we don’t have any news to share.
I would like to add some words to this topic. I’m a underground techno DJ/Producer and I play on “club standard” setups when I play out, but I practise at home with a FLX10. Having a similar beat FX is important to muscle memory. Using rekordbox the reverb effect is very similar to the reverb you get on pro level mixers and their stand-alone all in one units. This is great when you play techno, because we tend to rely on a high pass filter + reverb to build tension that we can release in a new phrase. We can create high pitched almost white noise reverb tails that lasts a long time.
With djay pro there’s a couple of things that need to be adressed:
1- The reverb is WAY to conservative. If you open up the rotary for reverb it needs to be strong enough to push the channel deep into the red, giving us DJ’s full creative control on how much to apply
2- We need to be able to make the reverb tail last WAY longer
3- It needs to have a certain “ring” or “resonance” to it. Currently it just sounds like muddy garbage
With the addition of onelibrary small fixes like these are the only thing you need to pull people away from rekordbox. Currently I have to deal with all rekordbox’s flaws just because you don’t have the FX on their level. And I hate for that to be like this because other than that you have a superior product. Better UI, better waveforms, better beatgrids, better tempo matching so tracks don’t drift away over team when not using beat sync. way better stems and better audio with master tempo on.
So if you can please, please PLEASE make this your priority. Improving this would mean a lot for a lot of people that are currently on the fence. I’ve been a long time djay customer since iOs and currently MacOs (and android, just because), please make me de-install rekordbox for forever.
If need be I can use a sound interface on my FLX10 to demonstrate the differences, if I do that for you can you get me personally involved in providing further feedback on this matter?
Hi @timefracture, welcome to the Community! Thanks for the detailed input. I’ll share this with our dev team for consideration.
Hi again @timefracture, can you please share an audio or video recording of the reverb on your FLX10 for reference?
