I feel the same way about the reverb quality compared to the hardware reverb on my DJM-S7. One of my friends managed to replicate that quality by experimenting with VST plugins, but he’s using VirtualDJ. When I switch from the DJM-S7 to a basic internal-type mixer using djaypro, the reverb just isn’t nearly the same quality. I don’t remember much about the Serato or rekordbox reverbs, but I wonder how their algorithms actually work. Maybe it just takes some experimenting, or perhaps they just need a wider range of control, like mentioned above. Upvoted.
Thanks for the feedback @Akrilovy
Hello, I did you a solid and I made a pretty extensive video.
It does not cover everything as there’s only 24 hours in a day, but the main 2 things are this:
1- Pioneer / Alphatheta reverb just has a certain tone and sustain to the reverb that we expect and incorporate creatively in our mixes
2- The lengths of the reverb tail in relation to the beat fx % setting on the display is wildly different in Djay’s implementation
I have made a video using RB 7.2.14 + FLX10, Omnis Duo stand-alone and Djay Pro (latest version on Mac) + FLX10. I do understand that I use different filter applications between examples, but you’ll get the gist of it if you really dive into it.
To make sure the audio quality of the audio in the video stays consistent I have used the same Howler audio interface in all video’s on the RCA master output of the mixers.
Could it be we’re talking more about a “Shimmer” or “Blackhole”/“Timemachine” kind of freeze reverbs? Reverbs like f.e. the Strymon, Eventide, Valhalla Supermassive?
Traktor has a few well-known and popular reverbs, f.e. T3, Iceverb and Wormhole. These could be used as a reference maybe?
Thanks for the detailed video @timefracture. This is very helpful! I will pass it onto our dev team for review.
We also have the “Arctic Reverb” in djay.
Cool video. What I’m hearing are long-tail reverbs with high density and feedback. Djay pro’s reverbs have much lower density and much less/shorter feedback “tails”, this is imho the main difference.
Thank you!
Yes the room size for the reverb seems to be way different, the RB reverb has more meat to it and doesn’t seem to narrow down in frequency as much over time. If I have some time left next weekend I might make a “track” that is just 4 beats long so I can do a 100% side to side comparison without filter applied, and then play over it with the fx set to a pre-determined setting. Then load the audio samples into Ableton, normalize the audio to the same dB level and do a waveform and spectrum analysis so we can really see what is under the hood.
But to be frank, I also feel like we’ve provided quite a bit of feedback now to the Djay team and it’s up to them to take further action now. Testing this isn’t rocket science and adjusting the reverb in the software should not be either. I’d be willing to help them out with feedback and even beta test for them if they ask me to so we can this long desired issue crossed off the wishlist ![]()
Thanks @timefracture, I think our dev team has everything they need now. The video was super helpful. If they need more, I will let you know. Thanks again!
Great work! Oh, how I miss the color effects
Maybe one day they’ll get implemented in this software as well
I know this might be asking a bit much, but since it’s already possible to load third-party plugins onto the Master channel, it would be a dream come true to be able to use third-party plugins as channel effects. My iPad is packed with reverb and delay plugins that I would absolutely love to use.
That would be cool but latency and latency compensation to avoid phase issues would be a real challenge as
Djay software needs to be as realtime as possible without losing audio quality.
Thanks for the input @Braunsen846