I notice a bpm offset when chopping and mixing tracks in wave form
song example: Evil Needle-Drive
I see a severe to mild beat matching offset when I mix my music ranging from hip hop to dubstep to synth and there appears to be no way to manually correct the beat match or beat tracking error. This makes syncing tracks together on automix sound horrible to be honest. Please try to add a way to manually and accurately adjust beat tracking to resolve this. Thanks
I tried tapping myself. No solution there. Needs a manual beat sync feature similar to Tractor dj
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Likewise with emenem -headlights. The track shifts offbeat when mixing in midsong
I know right. I test it with present tracks and my own tracks and still I get the bpm out of sync on the best work. Phillip fry: “Fix it. Fix it! FIX IT!” lol
I’m having this same problem with lots of tracks since the last December update. For example, my version of Clean Bandit Real Love seems to count five beats to a bar on the accapella start to the track, so it can’t be mixed over anything with a beat, it just runs away. Same with a vocal part of another Clean Bandit/Jess Glynne track, Rather Be. Better Than Yesterday by Sidney Samson and will.i.am has weird beats as well - like it can;t work out where the four-beat is - so I cannot mix this over anything now. Was perfectly OK until I had to reload the track due to an problem with iTunes - that’s all sorted and the track is exactly the same, but now DJay can’t analyse it properly.
I LOVE the DJay app and used it loads. Sadly it is becoming unusable due to these problems.
Example track from me:
Caribou - Can’t do without you (original version not extended - playing from Spotify using DJay Pro on Mac)
I believe this track should be 128bpm but it is incorrectly calculating at 128.5bpm. Even when I tap to get the correct tempo (which took me quite a bit of tapping) I noticed that if I keep pressing ‘3’ with loop set to 32 from where the song kicks in with full drums etc so that the playhead marker jumps back 32 beats at a time I notice the grid points calculated by the program are still drifting slightly. Not sure why - either the 32 beat jump or the auto-sync grid is not truly conforming to 128bpm even though I have now set this tempo. If it was drifting consistently one way it would suggest I have set the bpm incorrectly but it drifts backwards and forwards.
I hope that makes sense but it should be apparent if you recreate as per the above.
I would personally like a full manual override option on the bpm of tracks so that I can enter it via the keyboard rather than the tapping option. If I have manually overridden the bpm, the grid should then conform exactly to this from whatever grid/start point I set.
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Thank you, Jeremy, we’ll use these tracks for testing!
Does the problem persist using djay Pro 1.1.1?
I’ve been using DJay since the beginning; I have been mixing for 6 years at a Salsa club every week. Needless to say I don’t do much mixing with Salsa or Bachata, although you can…Djay is pretty good at analyzing a track’s BPM, but if the BPM changes from measure to measure slightly, as it does with any non-computer music, like Latin music, it’s only going to be an average.
But for EDM, usually it’s quite good, and my kudos to the developers. I love love love this app. Some songs do have problems…specifically, Drum & Bass songs often have issues. Often very complicated or unusual tracks are miscalculated. It would be nice to have the ability to reanalyze, or as others have said, to manually enter the BPM.
Here’s a few that it gets wrong:
My apologies for posting iTunes links, but the developers can go get these tracks for testing.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/cou…
(Off by probably 4-5BPM)
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/lic…
(This is off just a bit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvkUj…
(for whatever reason it just can’t get this right)
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/sau…
(This is a fun one… Should be roughly 87BPM or 174BPM or something similar. But not 129)
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/in-…
(This one is definitely off by probably 2BPM…)
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/gin…
(This one is also off by a few BPM…it’s close, but it’s definitely off)
Good luck, developers…I Love the app! I use it almost every day! Seriously!
What’s the status of this problem? Because I still have the same problem, even with the latest version.
Update may have addressed this.
If you set your beatgrids/bpm and (hot) cues in Rekordbox you can use our djay conversion utility to convert them to either version of djay (version 2 or Pro) on both platforms (iOS and MacOS).
That way your cue’s and bpm’s will be consistent thoughout your collection and platforms. We used to have the same problem but found a way to override the “analysed” bpm value with the Rekordbox bpm value.
In the documentation of the utility it’s explained how you can transfer your cues from one platform to another. However for BPM values that trick only works if the cue list has been created with our utility. djay’s way of storing them doesnt transfer the bpm values (they are in another metadata database).
the djay Converter Utility is at
https://sellfy.com/p/emUY
the video tutorial is at
https://youtu.be/F25-5Fdw8XY
This problem still exists. My dnb songs are off-beat and the wave forms are unclear. When is the next update? Did I pay over 50€ just to be able to play songs from Spotify with my controller or actually use it as a dj software? The beat grid is completely off.
Agree Christopher, I’m not crazy after 30+ years of night life, to carry around my turntables, for 150 gigs a year. It has to be light and portable, and i use all the tecnology i can get…
Tried DJay2 on ipad. Lots of amazing potential! I would not hesitate to get Pro and the Sugar Bytes FX if I could simply manually set the BPM. I am exporting my own stems from apps like Egoist, Beatmaker3 and Blocs Wave with very specific bpms, but a solid 98bpms becomes 162.4bpms with no sane way to adjust it. Bizarre seeing the lack of response from the devs on this.
A shame as this could have been an amazing tool to use in conjunction with with these apps if I could merely specify the bpm manually.
