thanks for support and ideas. Must admit I dont use pre made cue points that much, in my mind its more about a tune I dont know well and being able to recapture a good bit. I think Doogies preconditions are spot on. as for which loopback option is best, ie
A* Should the playhead jump back to the start of the loop at the next beat. Quantized.
B* Or should the current track keep playing until the end of the current bar, ie the 4 beats after the drop and then jump back to the beginning of the “back loop”
probably A but would be good to have a switch. A is more how loop forward works , right?
When I regularly set a loop, it is decided by MY selected loop length. Algo adding logic that would find the drop… And decide for me… Ya no thank you.
Plus that logic would probably be exponentially more difficult to program.
They don’t need to add anything to the UI, just let us map it.
I would make it the same button combo that I use in Virtual DJ to trigger that loop backwards feature.
shift + 2x loop/end loop
In fact…
we may be able to (easily) add the feature (albeit in a janky way) ourselves by duplicating the midi action on the button you want to trigger the loop back action.
By duplicating you’d be executing 2 commands at once(actually hopefully sequentially) which would be:
Pressing the loop “OUT” button should set the loop out point and skip back (beat jump backward) to the loop in-position. Meanwhile activating auto loop with the set number of bars. The beat jump to loop in point should use the set number of bars for the auto loop.
Currently there isn’t any function assigned to the loop “OUT” button when the looper isn’t active.
Currently I’m using this function in a workaround: press “BEAT JUMP BACKWARD” button, immediately followed by “AUTO LOOP” button.
So from my perspective this should be really easy to implement: assigning existing functions to an unused button.
From a functional perspective this would enable users to on-the-fly activate loops in hindsight. Without having to first skip back in the song. So when playing we’ve just heard a good part of the song for looping, being directly able to activate this part as a loop on the out point. And even save the loop. This would be really a fast way!
Please reply if you would like this feature, and by voting this post up. Or leave a comment if you have any questions or how you would see this function implemented.
4 relevant (closed) posts about this feature request already exist:
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I voted for the previous requests for this feature and yes, I’d still like to see this MIDI command option available. I’ve tried using the Duplicate function to map Skip Back and Auto Loop to a single button, but it drops the loop before skipping back.
Yeah. Backloop would be convenient. They could even consider implementing it as a system wide setting. I wouldn’t mind setting on the fly loops this way every time…
Also, support, please consider keeping suggestions open for more than a year.
Right now it’s impossible to add votes to older wishes which (unless you keep track of them manually) might not paint a complete picture of the number of people wanting this as they might be scattered over multiple posts pointing to the same idea over the years.
That’s why I was thinking about a setting that toggles between classic and backlooping. It would be 100% compatible with all hardware too as it simply changes the looping behavior system wide.
I thought about this ages ago (and had forgotten it again) as it is the most intuitive way of looping IMO. In the heat of the moment it is easy to miss the starting point of a loop, but you will always hear it so enabling it afterwards makes a lot of sense.
Especially for spontaneous tracks that you didn’t prepare in advance it would be a life saver…
Totally agree, I would definitely keep “auto loop backward” activated in my system settings For me it is all about creating mixes on the fly / in the flow. And I use skip/beatjump back a lot (it’s a way of manual backlooping
A lot of controllers have loop in/out buttons/system so ‘out button backloop’ function should complete the manual loop system.
I saw a closed topic about this, but it would be life-changing, so I’m starting a new one. It would be AWESOME if you could press the LOOP OUT button (or anything) and it would engage autoloop for the previous 8 bars (whatever # you want). OR if it just treated the start of play as the IN point.
A lot of times, you hear it and then you want to loop it AFTER you hear it. Can’t always predict the future.
When you press PLAY on a pioneer deck, it automatically acts as if you hit the LOOP IN button, so that next time you hit loop OUT, it just goes back to that point. Maybe for DVS if it could just detect where playback started and use that as the IN point.
This would be life-changing and amazing, and I saw the other posts… people want this! Please consider.
For me it is all about creating mixes on the fly / in the flow. And I use skip/beatjump back a lot (it’s a way of manual backlooping 
