Looper doesn't start/stop on the downbeat

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  • Device model : macbook M4
  • Version of operating system : macOS Tahoe 26.3.1
  • Version of djay (5.4.4):
  • Hardware/controllers used (Reloop Mixon 8 Pro):

A) SUMMARY OF ISSUE:

  • When triggering a looper pad, it’s not clear how it determines which beat it uses to start/stop. It does stay in sync, but the phrasing is off. Ideally it should always start stop on the downbeat.

B) DETAILED STEPS TO REPRODUCE:

  1. play track on a deck

  2. trigger any looper pad (from any pack) in between downbeats

C) EXPECTED RESULTS:

  • looper pad should start/stop on the downbeat

D) ACTUAL RESULTS:

  • sometimes it starts/stops on downbeat, other times it chooses a seemingly random beat to start/stop on.

Note: It seems to correctly start/stop on downbeat more frequently if only one track is loaded

Hi @audiosymmetry, thanks for the details about your setup and for the video - this is very helpful!

  1. Does this only occur with the Second Column / Perc Loop Pads?
  2. Are those 2 songs Dynamic BPM or Straight BPM?
  1. All columns, issue not exclusive to any particular Looper pad/pack
  2. Straight
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Thanks for the additional info @audiosymmetry

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hi! having major issues again - it seems like both, the autosnap/quantize start is off - AND the loops are playing back at different tempos.

The loops don’t line up with the track, nor each other.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bjdqgm6m0y5kfb11nqpp6/IMG_3896.MOV?rlkey=tp2kyaex36emgomrelxycm9kz&dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3k73e3ex4nmeqmoqytrq2/IMG_3895.MOV?rlkey=f0namh5j6uaulfup721hm63hc&dl=0

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Thanks for the videos @thedrummingdj. Please share your update setup details:

Device Model:
Version of operating system:
Version of djay:
Hardware/controllers used:
Hardware Firmware Version:

Macbook Pro Max M1 64GB ram

Sequoia 15.7.3

5.6.3

no hardware.

Thanks for the details @thedrummingdj. Can you please re-upload your videos here directly. The ones above won’t play and the Dropbox links are invalid on my end. Thanks!

lets see if this works!

Thanks for the videos @thedrummingdj. This definitely clarifies things. I have moved your comments to this topic instead. Our engineering team is aware of this issue and is investigating further. Thanks!

maaaaan, I may have to fall on my own sword here -

I’m 99% sure this is my fault - I was working on my non-DJ computer - and I was also messing around with Claude Code - and it’s yet to be tested, but I bet what I was doing messed up the looper feature. I will uninstall and reinstall later today, but - I’m almost certain I broke it.

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chiming in -
Have you tried using tempo blend in the crossfader FX? I’ve found using that - even if im not using in my transition does a better job of having those loops follow ‘master tempo’

I went to make a video of the above - but then - came up with a similar issue! I dont know if this is supposed to be like this or not - but - I caught ‘something’.

( I understand having a song start without a blend causes this, but, I feel like the loop/song should somehow be synced…)

Thanks for the video @thedrummingdj