Neural Mix MIDI out not as expected

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  • Device model (Macbook M1 14" 2020):
  • Version of operating system (macOS Ventura 13.7.8):
  • Version of djay (5.5.1):
  • Hardware/controllers used (Mide Fighter Twister):
  • Hardware firmware version (8 june 2023):
  • Please consider sharing a short video or screenshots to help clarify your issue

A) SUMMARY OF ISSUE:
I am mapping Neural Mix EQ (3 or 4 channel) on the Midi Fighter Twister as separate encoders. Works fine, except for the Output. Even though the encoder is set as a detent on the Twister, DJay sends a 127 at the 12 o’ clock position and every move past that stays 127.
If I map a standard EQ to the same encoder, the Output is as expect, so 0 to left increasing to 63 at 12 o’clock and 127 at the max.
So if another controller or on screen I set the Neural Mix EQ past any 12 o clock position, it always shows as “full on” which is confusing.

B) DETAILED STEPS TO REPRODUCE:
Map any encoder to Deck 1 : Neural Mix EQ (3ch: Vocals)
Click Output Channel 1 0-127, blend on
Then move the EQ knob on the screen with the mouse.
As you move it from 0 to 12 o clock the leds on the Twister will allready start filling the second half and be full on when at the 12 o’clock.

Other settings (Filter, Mid, Low, High) do work as expected, but not the Neural Mix EQ settings.

C) EXPECTED RESULTS:
I expect the “value” of what is on the screen to be send to the Midi Fighter. So 12 o clock should be halfway and not full on.
Just like other settings (Filter, Mid Low High etc)
Also this messes with the pickup mode.

D) ACTUAL RESULTS:
At and past 12 o’clock the midi values send to the Twister are always 127. (I can see this in Midi Monitor)
Because of this even if I have pickup mode enabled, when moving the encoder back to the 12 o’clock, the Vocal EQ maxes out!

Video of the issue, also see that even is pickup is checked, it does not behave that way.

Hi @Ramon_Richie, thanks for the details about your setup and the issue - this is very helpful especially the video! I have passed this onto our engineering team for further review and will report back when I have more news. In the meantime have you tried changing the LED parameters in the MF Twister Utility app to see if you can get a combination that works like expected?

He Slak_Jaw,
Thanks for that. No. At the moment I remapped to Neural Volume instead of EQ.

Hope they can fix it so it works with EQ as well.

You’re welcome. I’ll let you know when I hear back from engineering.

Hi again @Ramon_Richie, sorry for the delay reply. Unfortunately, our engineer was not able to reproduce the behavior. Both MIDI IN and OUT behave as expected. Can you please ask send screenshots of your MIDI mapping, with the affected controls. Advanced controls should be shown. Thanks!