Neural Mix STEMs routing on multichannel mixers

It would sure be cool if it was possible to assign the output of a single stems channel to channels on a hardware mixer. The idea being if you had a 4 channel hardware mixer you could assign one (or multiple) stems channel to a spare channel on the mixer and then do things like run external fx on that single stems channel. Same idea as assigning in-app fx to individual stems (which is super dope!) but allowing the flexibility of incorporating hardware fx units or any other creative output ideas. Could be a great way to integrate into a live band setting as well, for instance.

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Thanks for the suggestion @nomig! I’ve shared this with the dev team for consideration.

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Hi, is there any news about that? It’s very useful.

Cheers
Simone

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  1. Would be useful in a karaoke situation where you could use the song vocals as a guide track in a monitor or in ear mix an option would be available to send the stem separation to a different audio out channel if one was available

Hi @Frank_Bridges, welcome to the Community! Thanks for the suggestion! I’ll share this with our devs for consideration. In the meantime, please use the blue Vote button at the top left of this page so we can gauge user demand for this feature. Thanks!

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Thx! I am enjoying the app very much. It is very versatile.

You’re welcome @Frank_Bridges. Thanks for the positive feedback.

Hi again @Frank_Bridges, I’ve merged your topic with this existing one as they are closely related. Please vote above. Thanks!

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The live band situation mentioned above is hitting the nail on the head here. I recently started using djay pro with the Hercules djay controller with my band. We do a live karaoke using the neural functions. The idea of any/all stems being able to have a separate out would really open up the possibilities in a live band karaoke.

Thanks for the additional feedback @Frank_Bridges

Just so that I’ve got my head around the ask here, are you looking for a way to load a track which will then split out that track into 4 stems tracks, one per deck, all at the touch of one button?

I’m thinking this could be done in MIDI, but before I got ahead of myself just wanted to confirm the ask?

This is more for ā€œbandā€ or Karaoke applications than DJing am I right?

Cheers

James

@James_Gillies I don’t have an external mixer mode device to confirm with, but I did suggest something similar back in 2023:

Yes, indeed. So to @Slak_Jaw and @Frank_Bridges ā€˜s point - this will be possible using a mixer in external mixer mode.

Then either using a combination of custom MIDI mappings with cute use of the ā€œduplicateā€ feature you could combine multiple actions together…

Or if you were looking for more automation or broader functionality you could use something like Bome MIDI Translator Pro to chain up MIDI commands as needed, sending the MIDI Out commands into Djay Pro to execute all the individual commands that can’t be directly chained/combined in Djay itself.

But key to all of this is the routing of the Djay decks into the ā€œchannelsā€ on the external mixer, assuming it has an audio interface built in, or use an audio interface directly connected to the mixer on those discrete channels.

Cheers

James

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Correct on the band application. Although I would also use the setup for djing (auto mix) on breaks. What I do now is turn on neural mix and lower the volume of the vocal stem and maybe cut the drums, music or bass (or lower any of those) to fit our level of confidence in performing a song that is not on our (live) playlist. If someone is sitting in to sing, we might want to have the vocals partially removed if they aren’t confident in knowing the song without some help. Having the ability to direct a stem to a separate out (especially vox in this case) would make it easier to give someone a guide track per se without it playing through the mains.

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In my setup, I use an MPC Live 3 as the audio interface. Djay pro sees usb audio channels on the MPC and auto assigns the main out and cue to first available (I have many more available). I can then do whatever I want to those audio channels and redirect output to separate physical outputs on the MPC to our mixer. I send the cue channel along with click from the MPC to my IEM. It works great.

Ok! Great! So do you want a MIDI mapping to try and split out a loaded track as easily as possible?

Happy to have a crack at that for you..

When you say ā€œmidi mappingā€ I am not quite sure in what context you mean. Are you meaning a midi track (no audio) or some way to midi map a controller to turn stems on/off and/or enable a specific audio output?