There are several users who want to bring djay together with their lighting show, and @Slak_Jaw has cracked the door to that open somewhat with their iphone/ipad control of djay desktop app using OSC.
I’m of the position that deeper OSC integration is where algoriddim needs to take djay, because what we’re REALLY talking about is Show Control:
dig a little deeper into that and you might come to agree with me.
while soundswitch integration might be popular, what’s required is DMX sequencing to beatgrids etc, and remote iDevice control of it all is what people expect these days.
OR…Algoriddim isn’t going to listen until we start cancelling subscriptions. One common theme i have seen is that people are ALREADY subscribers but don’t want to use the software full time until we get SS integration. That’s like saying “I bought this car but I’m not going to drive it until the manufacturer gets me these wheels I want.” Do you think they ACTUALLY care how often you use the software? As long as you pay for it, they get what they want and have no incentive to add the features you want. The only way to get through to them is to start hitting them in the pocket. This thread is over 2 years old and there hasn’t been one single shred of evidence that they have any intentions of trying to make this happen. Even after SS openly said they would love to work with Algoriddim on integrating the two softwares. I know Algoriddim is a small company with limited employees, but they are going to stay that way unless they start giving the people that are subscribing the features they want.
well, perhaps they’re waiting for a clear indication from the userbase (subscribers) on which way to proceed?
That said, it seems to me that many users clearly don’t care, since the LED lights they use probably have sound-sensing capabilities and are happy with lights flashing in time to the music.
I’d say it’s the more professional folk here, the ones who make a significant portion of their income from using djay, who are most interested in a DMX lighting control/sequence integration…and they’re the ones who have chimed in here already.
Do the algoriddim folk attend/exhibit at any trade shows we might go to? NAMM etc? those of us who go to those should definitely stop in and put faces to handles and make our needs/desires known to them in person…
This may be true but it points more to this software/app being for the bedroom dj and amateur. Djay has so many cool features but is always lagging the “industry standard” platforms in a few essential features while knocking your socks off with others. Apple Steaming and Stems.
The app makes it easy to Dj, period. If that means amateurs are coming into the space, newbs are calling themselves DJs…well, good. It’ll fight off the impending tsunami of autonomous AI playing music. (I’m already warming up my shaking fist and practicing my “get off my lawn!” Voice)
Better people ask for what they want than have extraneous and/or esoteric options foisted on them. But if that’s not how you see it, I’m sure you can find what you’re lookin. for elsewhere, unless you’ve the chops to build it
This is the main feature that is causing me not to transition to DJay Pro as my go to DJ Software. I’m a working mobile DJ. 2-4 events/week. I am Serato based. I will use Virtual DJ on occasion. I spin mostly video. Mac Book Pro. Simply clicking a button in Soundswitch ( Control One user) between the two is nice.
I have used DJay Pro/Algoriddim for at least 10 years as an IOS app for a backup and remote wedding ceremonies or as a backup should main system go down. Serato has been rock solid and only times i have ever had to use Djay Pro is when power was an issue.
The recent Apple Music addition
got me to download on my Macbook Pro and start to look at Djay as my main software. The DMX lighting control is my main hangup. If i have to reprogram or revert to a separate control software or controller it defeats the purpose.
This will be my main hesitance in converting and or purchasing a control product with Algoriddim in mind.
SS used to advertise comparability with djay through Ableton Link, until it didn’t. The change happened quietly. But I suspect there may still be a way to have it work, because what’s happening behind the curtain is quite similar to a DAW/midi editing platform. We need some folk around here (other than @Slak_Jaw ) who are willing to dig into OSC. I suspect it’s not as daunting and unapproachable as a lot of folks tend to think.
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Im not happy to say I’m seriously considering switching to Serato simply because it works natively with Soundswitch. I’ve tried the Ableton Link “work around” that is terrible at best. I just can’t think of a good reason that Algoriddim would let this, from what I understand, open source protocol not work with their otherwise FANTASTIC software. I genuinely dislike using Serato.
This has been a source of discussion for years with no real answer. ABLETON IS NOT THE SOLUTION. IF Djay could tell Soundswitch what the BPM for the active deck is automatically, I might could get by. Ive never been able to get even that to work though. So unreliable I would NEVER trust it in a live situation, since some how Soundswitch tells Djay what the BPM is…
Algoriddim… You seem to really care for your users. IT’S BEEN LONG ENOUGH!!! PLEASE GIVE US FULL SUPPORT FOR SOUND SWITCH ASAP!!! Or tell us it will never happen so I can go complain to Serato that they don’t have the UI and features of DJAY PRO AI.
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I also purchased and converted to Serato purely because of SoudSwitch compatibility. But I much prefer DJay in every other way. For me, the need for customizable lighting shows outweighs all the other benefits that DJay brings to the table. What’s needed to make this a reality?
I have also purchased Serato to use at my bigger gigs so I can have a professional light show… it’s a real bummer because DJay Pro is superior in practically every other way. Serato feels like running with ankle weights. I love this program but leveling my production up limits my usage of it. Seems to be the case with most folks here
I 100% agree and am in the same boat as Mike. I use Serato ONLY because it happens to have a good working relationship with SoundSwitch. For a product like Djay Pro that is meant to make the DJ job easier and more fluid, the thing that would do this the most is through SoundSwitch integration.
And yes, their team is one of the most responsive you’ll find. I would be surprised if they didn’t jump at the chance to help with this. I’ll gladly start paying yearly for a subscription to Djay pro if you all can make SoundSwitch work.
EVERYONE… VOTE to keep this a HOT TOPIC. The more votes, the more the developers will be aware and get this very important feature implemented into the software. I love djay Pro and use it as my main DJ software. Keep up the great work Algoriddim!
Brief update -
Algoriddim recently reached out to do a user feedback interview. It was about a 20 minute video chat with a team member in Germany. When asked about what would make my workflow easier, SoundSwitch was all I asked for. I was told he that has been requested quite frequently and especially in America. All this to say, seems like there is hope!
Question will be will Soundswitch ever be available on iOS? As Algoriddim has significant user base on iOS I’m not sure this will happen. Could Soundswitch collaborate with djay to have inside software like enginedj? Maybe but Inmusic do own both Engine DJ and Soundswitch. Or you could just purchase a control one and have done with it. I’m looking at the ILS control, looks very neat.
Soundswitch on iOS devices would be cool! That would definitely eat into the Control Ones user base though. Having the auto-scripted tracks play is what most people are waiting for. As well as the MIDI Clock Timing that you get from full support. ILS does look cool! However I feel it’s not as robust when it comes to features compared to SoundSwitch. Control like you find in EngineDJ is a suggestion I gave but like you pointed out that may be something proprietary. Only time will tell!
