Ah wait. I just read somewhere “The stem separation is done in the DJ software, not by Tidal.”, so Tidal is just “allowing it” as opposed to providing it.
Hmm, does Tidal DJ extension work with Neural Mix Pro?
That’s the same for any service, not just Tidal.
Also, as with any streaming service, you’re renting the tracks. You don’t get to download and keep them.
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Hi @N_C, TIDAL does not currently offer an offline locker mode for any DJ software. Currently the only streaming services that have this are Beatport LINK Pro and Beatsource LINK Pro. Neural Mix STEMs separation within djay is, however, supported.
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Thanks. So to be clear. If you want to use tracks off Tidal you can only play them when connected to the Internet, right?
Yes, that is correct. Same with Apple Music and SoundCloud.
I note here that it’s kinda, sorta, under consideration?
Would make a big difference. Basically, I don’t see the point in paying for the DJ extension if you can’t have offline access.
@N_C offline locker functionality needs to be enabled by the streaming service provider before we can add it to djay. I recommend that you reach out to TIDAL Customer Support and express your interest in them adding this functionality. Thanks!
This is incorrect. It’s been available in VirtualDJ for some time now.
Also see here Tidal offline locker - #20 by agershon
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Thanks for the correction @PKtheDJ. This is promising news for sure. I’ll make sure our dev team is aware of this as well…
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I’ve just seen that PCDJ announced a couple of weeks ago that their forthcoming DEX 4 will include offline storage for Tidal, so I guess it’s starting to open up beyond just VDJ.
You know what to do…
Hmm. I think we all know that as individuals that’s pretty much a waste of time (as with any support from big companies). But someone from Algoriddim, sending links to threads here on the subject that might not be a total waste of time.
But then again.
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You’re correct, but I believe that when Slak says “you” he means everyone who wants offline storage from Tidal.
If you looked out of your window and saw one person walking past, you probably wouldn’t take much notice - but if you looked out and saw a thousand people then you would pay attention.
Oh and what if you saw a thousand people walking past at a a rate on one every few weeks. How might that go?
I can understand that many people would like such a feature like offline locker, but I don’t think constantly asking for it will speed it up. Tidal will already know that users want this. I see two possibilities:
- They think it’s a good idea and implement it - then they’ll communicate it immediately.
- They come to the conclusion that it’s not that important - then they won’t implement it.
I see it like this: if it comes, it’s good. If not, I can also live with it.
May someone here using Tidal Dj Extension point to me (sorry I’m new here) how do I find Tidal stems or songs that have stems in Tidal? Is there any way to search them in Djay Pro? I had the impression that those songs are somehow identified in the search and therefore when playing them, I could immediately turn-off either vocals, or instruments, but in the way that this behaves to me, it’s pretty much the same of Neural Mix separation and not the already separation of tracks available in Tidal? May someone help me to understand how to access them?
Hi @fpassa, if you have the Tidal DJ Extension, you do not need to locate any special STEMs versions of the songs in Tidal. You can simply use the Neural Mix controls in djay to isolate the various STEMs parts as desired in real-time. As far as I know, Tidal doesn’t offer any pre-separated STEMs files.
That’s exactly what a DJ software like DJay Pro is all about, that you can use stems on the fly and explicitly don’t have to fall back on pre-prepared tracks. And that’s the only way it makes sense.
Yes, there’s a difference between what Native Instruments called stems for Traktor in 2016 (full quality studio tracks) and what are commonly known as stems now, which are separated via computer analysis from any track.
Any reference to stems in recent years normally refers to the latter.
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