Add SoundSwitch Support

Any update on this please?

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Hi @DjLemart, no updates to share.

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I’ve done my best over the last few months to set up a workflow with Djay Pro and SoundSwitch, but unfortunately, the BPM detection struggles during beatless segments. Plus, Ableton Link forces me to keep Sync always on. In the end, I’m giving up and switching to Serato ahead of the season. It’s a real shame… I’m really hoping for an update, but I’m afraid this isn’t a priority for them right now :face_holding_back_tears:

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Thanks for the detailed feedback @SIMSU_84. Sorry to see you go.

Nothing against your software—it’s actually top-notch—but there’s a lot of competition right now. To stay ahead of the curve, you’ve got to level up and offer something unique. Lightshows definitely give you that edge.

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Thanks again @SIMSU_84

It sounds like you’re not too thrilled that we keep reminding you about the need to implement this integration with SoundSwitch… Mobile DJs like me charge more depending on the level of lighting system we bring to events. In my particular case, for smaller events I stick to using djay Pro with Ape Labs gear in music mode, but for larger events I use moving heads, PAR LEDs, fog machines, laser and other fixtures that require DMX control through SoundSwitch. In those cases, I’m forced to use Serato Pro instead. And I imagine there are many others in the same situation as me. Please keep in mind that this is far more serious than you may think, because it directly affects our income as professionals.

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it really cannot be so hard to implement soundswitch workaround in DJ pro. There are so many DJ softwares where it already is.

Please guys, I really don’t want to change my DJ Software because I really love DJ pro.

When can we expect to get the implementation? :face_savoring_food::smiling_face:

For me as a Dancer and dj there cant by anything so satisfying than perfect musicality light shows.

Guys please. :pleading_face:

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Thanks for the additional feedback @DjLemart

Hi @Ze_dy, welcome to the Community! Thanks for the feedback. We do not have a timeline to share regarding implementation of this suggestion. Please remember to use the blue Vote button at the top left of this page. Thanks!

I’ve been using Virtual DJ for all of my gigs for the last month or so, whenever their fluid beatgrids came out, and I gotta say, I don’t miss DJay Pro much. DJay Pro is more FUN to play on, but all of the extra functionality of VDJ just makes the comparison too stark. When you had functionality that no other program offered, it was easier to overlook the shortcomings. The only feature I’ve missed has been the neural mix/crossfader fx stuff. Not sure if this will be coherent or rambling, but I love this program and hope that someday it ā€œmaturesā€ to the level of the other DJ software

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Thanks for the feedback @allentastic. I have share this with our dev team.

fwiw, I am on the same path : moving to Serato because Djay Pro lacks integration with Soundswitch.
Music and Light go together. So, is this a DJ software or not ?

I have this feeling Djay Pro has long been ahead of the pack, but is now lagging.

Plus, I do appreciate @Slak_Jaw interactions a lot.
But, come on, I have had a bit too much of ā€œI will share this with our dev teamā€, without any feed-back for years, about SoundSwitch, and about UI responding to performance pads.
Or ā€œplease voteā€. These two points are in the top three of vote ranking. So, what’s the point ?
Seriously.

Both are ridiculously easy to implement.
We haven’t had a single feed-back about these 2 points for over three years now.
At some point it becomes more than frustrating.
It becomes unbearable.
Enough.

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Thanks for sharing @Davidv100. I understand your frustration and I have passed your comments onto our devs. Wish there was more I could tell you.

From what I understand, advanced SoundSwitch integration isn’t as straightforward for djay Pro compared to VirtualDJ or Serato DJ Pro.

VirtualDJ uses native OS2L support, while Serato has a dedicated proprietary integration/API with SoundSwitch. djay Pro, on the other hand, doesn’t seem to expose a comparable public API or native OS2L implementation, so deeper features like deck state communication, scripted lighting, cue/loop triggers, and advanced light automation are harder to implement.

So compatibility through BPM detection or Ableton Link is possible, but full two-way integration is a different story.

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Thanks for sharing @SIMSU_84

Hello @SIMSU_84 ,
If I understand correctly, OS2L (Open Sound To Light) is a kind of standard protocol.
So, indeed, and obviously, Djay Pro should have to feed OS2L info.
I understand this in not the case today, but this is what needs to be done.
This needs dev work, but if I am not mistaken, it is not a lot.
Small investment for big impact.

There is one point where I would beg to differ from you : I don’t think there is any two-way integration involved. I do now have a real experience of Serato & Soundswitch, and Soundswitch seems to be totally in slave mode to me. No info goes from Soundswitch to Serato, that I see (expect for possible technical hand-shakes, confirmations, or error codes). But even that I am not sure.

Indeed,

  • I understand Soundswitch ā€œseesā€ Serato (Soundswitch show a green or red connexion status with the DJ Software.
  • But I am not even sure Serato ā€œseesā€ Soundswitch (In Serato, I just flip a switch saying ā€œsend info for light tools (or something like that).

Serato just passes info to this OS2L thing, and Soundswitch fetches info there, provided by Serato, totally (or mostly) in fire and forget mode.

I’ll say again that I think Algoriddim is at risk of losing relevance for its target market (DJs who are doing everything alone in a one-man show). Especially with high quality lighting fixtures available at reasonable price, from Chinese manufacturers like Bothlighting.

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Thanks again for the feedback @Davidv100

Where did you get that info from?

At this point, I’m starting to wonder whether the issue is actually technical. My understanding is that Algoriddim is interested in supporting SoundSwitch, so is this a contractual limitation due to the developer’s exclusivity agreements with Serato, Virtual DJ or other companies?

I’m asking because I’d really appreciate a definitive answer, so I know whether I need to stop considering djay Pro for my most demanding gigs.

And just to be clear, I absolutely love djay Pro and prefer it to Serato in almost every respect. However, the current limitation of having to rely on Ableton Link for lighting control—which also forces Sync to be enabled—is a real frustration.

Thank you very much.

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