Djay Pro is not Pro

A somewhat aggressive title, but one that I unfortunately hear often (in Italy) regarding DjayPro. I’ve tried to convince several professional acquaintances like me that DjayPro is a valid companion for the evening/club, but then they see it only as a non-professional “app” and continue to use Serato/Virtual/Rekordbox, which are heavy, poorly optimized, aesthetically ugly, expensive, but why?

Yesterday I was at an entertainment trade show (MIRTech) with a pavilion dedicated to DJs with a demo console, well, DjayPro was only on a toy Hercules :face_with_diagonal_mouth:, a little further on there was a Rane Performer that was down because the laptop couldn’t run Serato DJ Pro, can you imagine?

DjayPro works well on social media, excellent for app development, it needs to work more on positioning, it would have been nice to have some scratch performances with DjayPro and iPhone or iPad (as happens in other parts of the world) or adopted on other premium and professional consoles that it handles without problems, or a small stand with a few test consoles, but instead nothing!

What do you think? For me, DjayPro is a valid professional tool, better than other historic programs, it just needs to be seen more but with professional equipment or djs to truly position itself among the Pros.

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Hey Scoop, it is you!
You are the professional here. If you as a professional are using Djay Pro in a professional enviroment THAT is proof of it’s capabilities. Don’t let any other opinion keep you from providing the best result for your audience, your client or most importantly; yourself. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses: :folded_hands:

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I know that it is like this and in fact I use it, but the problem is that for most people DjayPro is less professional than Serato/Rekordbox/Traktor etc. etc. :face_with_diagonal_mouth:

i hear you. Perhaps we should add the Laidback Luke product placement* to this story, what do you think about that? Cause that move seemed bold at first….

let me add this also to add to your quest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMfO1c5CyD0

*Reloop's Mixtour Pro For Djay Pro Software Finally Hits Stores

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take a look at : DJ Controllers, DJ Mixers and other DJ Accessories | Algoriddim

Here you see, Hercules first, cdj / scratch dj’s last. So there is a strategy: young new dj’s first, experienced dj’s last.
Sounds logical from a -get new users- standpoint. Wether you agree or not, algoriddim is in a niche market already…

Unfortunately, 70% of young people leave the DJ profession. They should attack the 25-45 age group who are already DJs. They should be more physically present at fairs and conventions (even in Italy), or organize masterclasses in the so-called “DJ Point” shops and not leave these spaces to other AlphaThetas first and foremost…

Agree, perhaps it’s a budget thing also. Algoriddim is still completely independent, no outside investors, no big corporate umbrella. So you could argue while this allows them to be more flexible than other big brands, they can’t easily be physically present with big stands and professional dj’s…
I don’t know. There are a few interviews online (algoriddim c.e.o.) you can watch to analyze the strategy.

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Just watched the Karim Morsey NOAH17 YouTube vid. It may be nearly 10 years ago but it’s pretty essential viewing for all day users I think. Algoriddim’s goal in 2017 is clearly not the professional market and probably still isn’t.

The best way to change someone’s mind to what they claim is not true and many times just due to loyalty or influence from others is to actually prove them wrong by dropping a live set on front of them and showing them that DJay Pro is no child but a Superman. Don’t tell them, show them.

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Thanks for sharing @Scoop. Interesting topic. Looking forward to hearing other opinions on this. In the future, please avoid posting in all bold text. Thank you.

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Atomix is independent too, yet VirtualDJ supports way more controllers than anyone else (fully, including screens) and the software versions are identical across platforms.

No missing features on Windows compared to Mac. :man_facepalming:

Full stems quality (no restrictions), video capability, a wide choice of music streaming services, broadcasting directly from the software, VST plugins…

Now they’ve got a smarter beatgrid system too, so the only reason I still have djay Pro is that it runs on my phone for emergency backup purposes.

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haaaa PK hitting hard!
Can’t dismiss what ya sayin there… perhaps the only thing to say: thank god for competition.

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I pasted the text copied from the translator, evidently the bold of the previous writing remained in the form when creating a new topic :sweat_smile: Sorry!

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No problem @Scoop. The Community uses markdown notation. You can remove the bold formatting by deleting the “**” before and after your text.

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exactly my thoughts at first, im a resident dj with 4 major clubs residency, 5 nights a week, i hesitate to use djay at first because i know djay as a mobile app, i dont see it as a profesional gear at first, then i findout they have a mac app, 7 days free trial, and can read rekordbox database

so i try it, been using it at the clubs for a year now, and have no intention of going back to rekordbox for playing (i still use it as database management and to create usb backups)

i agree branding wise, most djs might see djay as a hobbyist tool, but for me what matters is it works for me and my style of playing

i tried the iPad version, works great, but with my style of playing, its not for me, im on mac and its been great, no big issues so far

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Same here.

In 2022 I was hell-bent on using my M1 ipad pro exclusively because it was alot more snappier, handled stems better and video with ease, very portable, sleek and I could boast with it to others. It was just so much more powerful compared to my older 2020 ipad pro and macbook pro, BUT…
I met 3 issues and had to abandon the idea;

  1. Storage issues so I got a 2TB ext SSD and a type C dongle
  2. Library access issues: I can’t do a files search on the ext SSD from djay unless I add entire content of SSD into my collection. I couldn’t just move over my playlist collection from mac to ipad - impossible. Media library file from mac, if I copy over, reflects all my playlists well on ipad but the tracks are missing (yet they refer to the same tracks in the connected ext SSD.
  3. Having to carry a dongle all the time (a failure point) - I have come accross some controllers that hate to be connected via a dongle carrying not just the controller but also an ext drive and an HDMI.
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my issue is , I’m a big guy with sausage fingers, so yeah iPad doesn’t work for me LOL

:smiley:
ya the 11 inch was a menace to me too, but the 13inch was perfect with large touch buttons…except again, the entire device plus magic keyboard was same size and weight as a regular laptop.

Djay Pro has come a looooooong way. In my opinion, there’s still more to come. I agree, and I still think one flagship piece of gear that can compete with the System One, Performer, Rev 7, but with DJay Pro branding on the gear instead of the other software, would attract even more attention also. I don’t think the Mixon 8 Pro did enough. I’ve been telling my DJ buddies about this app for YEARS, but sometimes people don’t want to learn anything new, so they’ll stick with what’s familiar. No need to say the app is not professional though. Have they seen what DJ Angelo is doing with it? On laptops, iPad, and iPhone? How much more professional can it be? I mean there’s no PERFECT software, right?

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@Armigo, I switched to iPad around 2018 and haven’t considered switching back to a laptop. The iPad just feels more reliable in the DJ booth to me and is easier to protect from moisture and drops than a laptop. Around 2019, I also switched to using Beatport Professional streaming with the offline locker. IMO this setup offers the flexibility of streaming with the reliability of local music while greatly simplifying library management and backups.

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