Djay2, ios7, iDJPro - Split Feed to House Audio - Random!!

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Damn, thats disappointing that your workaround didnt work this time. I dont think you can cue at all with ipad only though, you would have to use a split output cable like the griffin one.

I am starting to think i may have to explore another avenue myself. Gonna have to get a laptop with virtualdj or something. Im starting to think it cant be fixed. The thing that is weird is that im sure numark has sold a ton of these things but this seems to be the only place im reading about this issue. I mean there isnt even 30 of us in here so what gives? We are the chosen ones?

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Djay 1 or 2? Just curious because ive had the problem with both. Actually since day1 with the original djay and whatever ios was available when the numark idj pro was first released. I have the same model ipad2 32gb.

I do remember warren saying that the ipad3 is much more suceptible to the glitch. I maybe rencounter it once myself during a 4 to 5 hour set, so by comparison, i have it much better than most.

Also i asked warren before how they are able to reproduce it and it sounded to me like it is when the processor is under full load. I personally make sure there are no background apps open and disable wifi and any other unecessary service. Make no mistake, it still happens, but not as often as i am reading with some.

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Michael, i recall having that menu problem quite some time ago, everytime i would scroll down with my finger it would return to the top by itself, i havent had that issue in a long time so i thought it was fixed in one of the recent updates to djay2.

I have to say though i strongly recommend not running ANYTHING in the background until this issue is fixed. As said below, i encounter this issue only once during a 4 to 5 hour set and if im lucky, not at all. The problem is that i never know when its gonna happen.

One suggesstion for handling requests, if you have an iphone, get a cable to go from your headphone jack to the rca inputs on the front (aux in.). Download your requests and manually play them that way, then sync on to your ipad after your gig. Its not ideal but it works for now.

Warren how about giving us all a nice christmas gift and fix this stupid thing once and for all!

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I too had the problem before ios7 and even had it with djay1. Sorry to hear you lost your ipad air! Can you please keep us posted on future use with your ipad air? Let me know if you ever get the glitch. I wanted to get a bigger ipad anyway but didnt know if i should stick with a 2 or 3. I guess you had no functionality issues with the adapter to lightning connector. Does the air fit in the space of the idj pro? Thanks!

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Everyone, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE check out the video i just posted to youtube. I was just mixing in my garage and my favorite glitch occured. After playing around a while, i found a fix.

Warren, PLEASE take a minute to look at this, it could be the key to finding a permanent solution whether it be hardware, software, firmware, whatever.

http://youtu.be/tGb6Tc4DPPA

Everyone, have a great holiday! Lets get this thing fixed!

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I posted a vid yesterday on this forum, i have always encountered the glitch using xlr from day one. I am wondering why though as i show in the video, does switching the xlr plug from the left to thr right in mono fix the issue.

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Agreed! I did try doing the mono switch trick while djay2 was still open, it didnt do anything. I moved the switch back and forth at least 10 times. I couldnt do anything actually to fix it so i decided to just try and switch ports, and it worked. Thats why i wanted to make that vid right away before it fixed itself which has happened to me.

What im going to try next is keep it plugged into the right port on the idj pro all the time and see if i can get the glitch that way. If i do get it, i wonder if switching back to the left would fix it. I just hope warren takes the time to watch the video and am curious what his thoughts are. As always i will keep everyone posted, 8 days til my next gig and am praying what i found helps!

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I am only going to use the right side from now on and see. I was mixing for about an hour and a half last night using only right side and no glitch. Will need to put more time into it to see for sure as there have been times i get lucky and dont get the error ever.

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Well you can go to your ipad settings from home screen, then general, then accessibility, then scroll down a bit and you will see a switch fror mono audio. However, i feel like it doesnt affect much besides a slight volume difference. It seems that the mixer knows when there is only one source plugged in but i can only speak for xlr.

Also just to note, i always used to run two xlr’s, one on left, one on right. When the glitch happened, the speakers would essentially swap, left song on right speaker, right song on left speaker. When running only one xlr, if the glitch occurs and you have the crossfader pegged to one side and no track is playing on the other, boom, dead silence until you move the crossfader opposite. Same glitch, but it behaves differently when there is a mono signal. This is why i really hope by keeping it on the right side i could avoid it all together!

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Thanks for sharing, we seem to be on to something with the left side outputs. And its great you can use djay1 still. I believe stuart, who created this thread, almost 3 MONTHS AGO, can also use djay1. Unfortunately for me, i use an ipad2 and get the same error with both djays.

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Well guys, so far so good using one xlr on the right side output. I have mixed 3 different days now for about an hour and a half in my garage just practicing and the glitch has not occured. I have even switched over to the left side every so often to see if the glitch happened in the background and nothing.

I wonder if the software sends a bad signal to the left side only and without anything plugged in there, it has no effect.

Warren, merry christmas, happy new year, where you at?

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So then effectively, by only leaving the right output plugged in, there wont be any effect on the main when glitch occurs. Perhaps the glitch only would affect the headphones?

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Read through this forum pedro. Its a glitch, algoriddim is working on it. Welcome to the club. There are certain things that work for some, just read through.

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After reading what warren posted today, its actually not going into split mode. It is re assigning channel numbers by moving them up one. In stereo setup if i am reading correctly, after glitching, your right speaker becomes your left speaker, and your left speaker becomes your headphones. This is why your cue comes through.

Just knowing that should lead to a fix very soon i would hope. We know exactly what it is doing, i think they just need to find out the trigger… Fast i hope…tomorrow would be good, i have a bar gig at 930 :slight_smile:

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UPDATE

well guess what, it glitched while only using one xlr in the right output. The good news, all of the audio behaved normally meaning the mains were fine using the crossfader, the cue stayed in my headphones, all speakers had audio coming out like they should.

The bad news, for some reason the audio was a little lower and had a fair amount of static, especially on bass hits.

Now, i know it was the same glitch because when i put it back over to the left side, the channels were mixed up.

So what i did find this time around is that if i hit the home button, then open djay 1, then double tap home button and go back to djay2, the problem is cleared. This is far faster than switching hardware audio off and on in settings or killing power to idj pro and turning back on.

More bad, upon switching back to djay2, although the turntable view was correct, the menus were sideways. Song menu, settings menu, even the clock and the battery indicator at the very top was turned in landscape mode and there was nothing i could do to get it back to normal, so guess what, i had to kill the power and turn it back on with the switch on the idj pro.

The good about just turning the mixer on and off is that as long as djay2 stays open, it will pick up where you left off, even if the track is still playing.

Only thing i will say is that i did not turn wifi off this time as i forgot. Previous 3 sessions, wifi off, no glitch.

So again, using my paricular mono setup does not prevent the glitch, however the results are a little more subtle. I think people understand a bit of static over your cue coming through the main. Also, switching to djay1 and back to 2 is the quickest way to solve the problem, but beware the menu problem and know eventually you will have to reset to get back to normal. And finally, turn off wifi, bluetooth, and anything else that is not necessary to have open or running.

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Your welcome, i just practice my sets in the garage and just tinker with things to try and fix and share what works. Hoping that it is not all for nothing. I see djay isnt available any more which is weird. Just download djay le, its free, and if you are downloading just to fix the glitch by switching back and forth, that should work. If you are looking to use djay1 permanently until glitch in 2 is fixed, you may br out of luck.

Warren may know how you can get the original.

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Just got home from a 4 hour bar gig and no glitch, thank The Lord. Here’s my technique I used for tonight.

Set iPad to airplane mode, no Wi-Fi, no Bluetooth, nothing. Opened DJAY 1 then minimized and opened DJay 2. I did this just in case it glitched, seems the easiest and fastest way to recover is switching back and forth between programs.

One XLR plugged in the right side output of the IDJ Pro. iPad also set to Mono in general settings/accessibility

Could be a coincidence but wanted to share like I have been with everything.

It really blows that you have to jump through hoops and manipulate all these settings but I guess it is what it is. I cannot wait until this is fixed once and for all, it would be a big weight off of all of our shoulders. DJ nerves are bad as it is!

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Thanks nuno, thats a good observation. I will def try that next time and post results. I think though when leaving the xlr on the left output, once glitched, it will still behave backwards, sliding the crossfader to the left will actually fade to the right deck. If you read warrens most recent post, what is actually happening is the left xlr becomes the headphones after glitch. This is why the crossfader behaves the way it does.

Ron, keep us in the loop with the air, i saw your photo, looks good. Ive been wanting to buy a backup just in case and may go that route. However, it would be cheaper to just buy another ipad2 or 3 if this thing would just be fixed already.

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I think we have all been more than patient enough… What is it gonna take to fix this? I feel we have provided more than enough information, constant trial and error to find workarounds. We’ve all been embarassed during gigs… Enough is enough really…we are going on 4 months. I have been trying to be polite about this but am really getting pissed now. No more generic responses, can this be fixed or no? Just tell us so the idj pro users can move on and either buy a new controller or get a new setup completely.

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Anybody out there? Anybody at all? Bueller…bueller…