How do I analyze tracks in Tidal playlists?

David13 · June 22, 2020, 9:18pm

Part of the problem with Spotify was that some of the tracks were radio versions only, you couldn’t get access to some tracks that were extended dj versions, especially if the tracks were recently released. I play electronic music when I spin. The reason Beatport has 9 million tracks and Spotify has 50 million is Spotify includes all genres of music. You don’t see genres such as metal, rock, jazz, classical, country, etc in Beatport. It is designed exclusively for DJs whereas Spotify is designed for the average music listener.

David13 · July 1, 2020, 9:45am

I definitely don’t exclude you DJs that play other genres than dance music. I too have DJ’d at weddings and other events, where I don’t mix tracks together. As a dance DJ my needs are different and Tidal is not a viable solution for me personally.

David13 · July 1, 2020, 9:59am

167 hours, that’s almost a full week of analyzing. And I have a lot more than 15K tracks. I mean, c’mon seriously? That is an acceptable solution? It would take over 3 weeks to analyze my songs from Tidal. And I would have to do this with every new track I add to my library. C’mon Algoriddem! Stop making excuses!

Lukas_E · May 5, 2020, 5:34am

Hi David, Thank you for getting in touch. Pre analysing streaming service playlists is generally not possible. Your BPM and Key are displayed in Spotify and not in Tidal so far as you already played them from Spotify.

A way around this is playing through a playlist in Automix. We are sorry that we can not provide this feature at the moment.

dj_romy_fi · May 11, 2020, 1:16pm

Did you tried to use automix as suggested. It took a while for me to do 20k songs but 50k…

Haven’t tested myself yet with Tidal but, what I did with spotify songs: I added all new songs to automix queue.

**Then modified :
Mix:

transition : automatic
duration : manual 10 s

Song range:

start position : automatic
end position : automatic
maximum song play duration 30-50s**

This depends a lot how fast internet download you have. I find out that 30-50s was good enough for me to get 95-100% of the songs analyzed, for my avg 40-60 Mbps download speed. Sometimes there were tunes without analyzed info, but those tracks was easy to see on the play history.

And your computer could do the thing while you are sleeping.

And if you thing why the analyzation is slow: songs needs to be downloaded on the background before it can be analyzed. If you use Tidal and FLAC, you gonna need fiber network connection.

dj_romy_fi · June 24, 2020, 8:11am

Currently analyzing about 15000 tidal tunes. Will take about 167h

Check the preferences: “Maximum song play duration”

dj_romy_fi · June 24, 2020, 8:21am

Not all of us are spinning only dance music. I’m more like all around dj, including on my sets rock, heavy/metal, blues, so radio edits are just fine for those genres.

dj_romy_fi · June 27, 2020, 6:05pm

Yeah, I don’t mind at all

Lin_Rich · July 1, 2020, 5:18am

Exactly… a DJ plays for their audience. So guess what? If I have only blue/jazz crowd. I’ll be the best mixologist in that genre for that event. And yep I’m still a DJ…

Angus_Anger · May 7, 2020, 5:16pm

I agree, big big mistake ditching Spotify! What idea is behind that? Jay Z paying you more? There are smart and there are dumb business moves. I’m ditching djay pro too if you follow through.

Angus_Anger · May 7, 2020, 5:44pm

Sorry algoriddim, I revoke my previous post, seems like Spotify is the villain in this story!

Bhavraj_Rehal · June 12, 2020, 9:09am

how did you set song duration? I dont see that option on automix?

Peter_Davies · June 20, 2020, 4:07pm

Hi - do the Beatport Link tracks already have the key analysed and the BPM etc? Having key visible (and colour coded like Serato) is crucial for DJs. Do you find Beatport has the same volume of tracks as Tidal/Spotify David?

lokumbu · June 22, 2020, 8:17pm

Good question Peter! David could you give an answer to that?

lokumbu · June 22, 2020, 9:03pm

But how come you are happy with beatport link if it has only 9 million songs (spotify = 50 million). You mentioned earlier that you have 50.000 songs in your playlist. A lot of those must be missing now.

lokumbu · June 23, 2020, 7:39am

Thank you David!

lokumbu · July 1, 2020, 12:24pm

I am trying it out since 2 weeks now. It is a very big pain in the ass I have to admit. Synching the songs was one thing which took me one night. But the bigger problem is a lot of songs couldn’t be find, the search engine is horrible and every time you update your spotify you have to update your tidal playlists as well. I think that was it for me. I’m no longer gonna use Djay pro.

DJ_Beesknees · June 26, 2020, 11:35pm

It also didn’t save from device to device. When I played music on Tidal on my iPad it didn’t transfer to my Mac when I bought Djay pro2.

Anders · July 21, 2020, 1:45pm

Emily · April 1, 2021, 3:31pm

Just wanted to share that the ability to pre-analyze entire playlists in the TIDAL library (analyzes BPM, key, beat grid, and waveforms) has been added in the latest versions of djay Pro AI for iOS (version 3.6.7), djay Pro AI for Mac (version 3.0.9), and djay Pro for Windows (version 1.0.27707.0).

Thanks to all of you for sharing your feedback and for your patience. Happy mixing.