Serato stems & Pitch ‘n Time vs Djay Pro

Continuing the discussion from Add Pitch n Time like Serato:

Has anyone who uses both compared Serato Pitxh n Tonw with the djay pro equivalent when pushing past 10% variance? I’d also be curious to know how stems compare between the two platforms.

Hi @Framber, welcome to the Community!

Thank you! Glad I found you. I was a dj over 30 Ago, kept my music collection, and now feel the urge to play as a DJ at home and make my own mashups and remixes of songs of my era (70’s, 80’s and 90’s)

You’re welcome @Framber. I used to be a Traktor Pro user not a Serato user, so I can’t provide you much regarding the time stretching quality comparison. We do use the same time stretching engine as Traktor Pro though: Zplane Elastique Pro V3. Hopefully some other users here can share their thoughts on the 2.

Regarding STEMs quality, this topic might be helpful:

Thank you!

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You’re welcome!

I’ve used pretty much all the different DJ software, and even though pitch’n’time is good in Serato. You have to pay EXTRA for it! Personally I’ve not noticed any issues that give concerns with the Djay pro time stretching algorithm.

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I think ultimately if sound quality is your primary focus, you should really disable the time stretching and let the track pitch bend naturally.

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I will be making mashups at home, so sound quality is most important. Maybe I will just prep clean stems with Flex Time in Logic ahead of time, and use those for the mashups. Thanks!

Thanks for sharing @BillPayer and @STU-C.

I prefer Serato’s time stretching. It is less metallic. However, I think the stems sound better in DJay, so it’s a pretty even trade off. I still mostly use Serato because Djay does not have good sampling features. For example, you can’t have samples that sync to tempo and loop. Well, other than their very genre limited packs they include. It’s a very strange oversight on Algoriddim’s part. Not sure what their reasoning for limiting loops to their own packs is.

Thanks for the input @Wuli

Pitch’n’Time in Serato is probably the craziest feature. Although if you want to purchase it on its own it costs like 500€.
I’ve got it as a bargain at some point. And it is really mindbending. you can go +100% or -50% and still hear almost no artifacts. And that algorithm (:stuck_out_tongue:) is almost 20 years old.
Still, when switching to Algoriddim I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the timestretch. I honestly expected it to be worse.
So long story short, while it isn’t a match for Pitch’n’Time (and almost nothing on the market is), it is good enough in a +/- 10-15% range.
I’d wish they would license Pitch’n’time for more software at a decent price, or even for hardware like loopers and these kinds of things.

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Thanks for the input @Bogdanoctav