Set focus on the Queue?

So, my SX2 has arrived to replace the SB3 and I’m remapping all manner of buttons and knobs to do what I want them to.

Come across an issue with the library though.

I can use the browse knob and buttons to go back and fore between tracks, playlist, sources etc and that is all good.

My big problem though is I cannot for the life of me find a way to get the focus to move over to the queue so I can scroll through it.

I can touch the screen / click the mouse to get into the queue and the rotary knob scrolls up and down as expected.

Is there anyway to set focus on the queue through the controller and just midi mapping alone?

Any thoughts out there or is it something we’re all living with?

Any pointers welcome.

Cheers.

Forgot to say using an iPad 12.9.

Hi @sooteee,

You should be able to remap your controller through MIDI Learn. I also recommend you to look into this community thread to find out more information on the individual MIDI commands.
The MIDI command “Switch Library Table” should jump between the different library sections.
Let us know if you have any other questions.

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Thanks @Guillermo, I’ve remapped most of the controller to fit what I want so I’m fine with remapping.

Trouble is your suggestion doesn’t work, nor does ‘select next section’ nor do any of the other mappable options in the Music Library section.

There are two options one ‘Focus on playlists’ and one ‘Focus on tracks’, neither do what you would imagine they would and there is not a 3rd option to Focus on Queue in existence.

Some of the other options in the Music Library tab don’t appear to do anything either via a controller as I’ve tried them all at some point.

So it looks like there is currently no way to set focus on the queue via a controller unless someone has another suggestion.

Cheers

Hi @sooteee,

Thanks for pointing this out. We are sorry to hear you’ve encountered this issue with the library browsing MIDI commands.

We are currently investigating this. We’ll get back to you with more information as soon as we can.

Thanks for your patience and understanding.

Hi @sooteee,

You were right, there are some issues on the Library Navigation through MIDI Commands on iOS. We have escalated these to our developers and will work on a solution for this as soon as possible.

Thank you for your collaboration so far.

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@Guillermo

No problem, glad to have helped out.

It should help other people sending you guys support tickets through in the future as well. :+1:t3:

Look forward to a fix in an upcoming update.

Cheers

Steve.

@Guillermo
I’m back again……other things the developers may want to look at for midi controls that are missing are:

1 - You can’t set skip forward or skip back greater than 4 beats. I know I can change the duration etc but that means having the screen on the right setting to confirm what the duration is. If I could program the pads for greater than 4 beats I wouldn’t need to see the duration on screen.

2 - You can’t set bounce loops of any duration to the harmonic or vocal stems at all. The options are totally missing in the mapping.

I’ll report back with others as I’m going along….:+1:t3:

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Hi Sooteee
You may have also noticed that if you set your default skip without midi to say 16 and then use a pad set to instant skip to 4 beats with midi, it changes your default back from 16 to 4 which is totally wrong (In my opinion).
There are separate midi commands to set the default skip duration and to skip forwards and backwards based on that duration. The instant skip commands from 1/8 to 4 (and should be more) should have no effect on the default duration you set separately and can rely on.

You are also correct about the lack of focus on queue which is badly needed and available in Mac & windows. Also the other midi library commands that are present but don’t work, plus no midi to access auto mix queue & my biggest issue at the moment having no way to pop up or focus on the track search feature (there is a keyboard shortcut in Mac and windows but even this isn’t in IOS)

I may sound a little negative at times, because I’m no newbie. I have been using Djay for over 8 years! And so I tend to focus on things that don’t work, need fixing or adding (two of those midi library commands haven’t worked since midi came to iOS a thousand years ago ha ha ha).

@SteNight Fully agree with what you’re saying, I never missed a lot of it on my old SB3 as I didn’t have enough options to play with due to some pads being laden with ‘gimmicks’ that we couldn’t touch.

Now I have my SX2 I’m doing a lot more mapping and discovering some of the issues mentioned above.

I’ve been doing this in clubs since the early 90s and we never had any of these problems on 12 inches of plastic!! :rofl::rofl:

Glad I’m not the only one who was having this issue. My rotary knob only scrolls through the the playlist and I wish I had a midi mapping that allowed me to jump over to the queue (and back) but none of the options I tried worked so I have to tap a song in the queue whereas I can use my rotary knob to select a song in the playlist.

I love the “add/remove from queue” mapping and what I envision is using the rotary knob to scroll through the playlist and I have a custom mapped button that adds/removes to queue (I was able to set this up successfully), but then after I’ve added a bunch of songs to the queue use different mapped button to “jump” over to the queue and use my rotary over there to select the next song to play (this appears to be the same missing feature described above).

@Trenchtown_Rock
Hi fella, as @Guillermo acknowledged, there are issues with midi mapping the library functions.
I do feel your pain though!
I can add / remove tracks to the queue via a button press on the controller but at present there is no way of getting over to the queue without resorting to poking at the screen!
Hopefully now it’s been acknowledged we’ll get a fix in a future update.
There are numerous other functions that are missing in the mapping table as well - no skipping greater than 4 beats being a great big bear to me!!
Skip now going up to 64 beats but loop still maxing out at 32 is also another ‘annoyance’…
We live in hope….:grin:

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This may be a suggestion or bug report.

I would expect that when there is a midi option to “Add selected tracks to queue”. there would be another option to focus on the queue but there isn’t. I searched and found this report below that is more than a year old but still no sign of this functionality.

Is there any chance of revisiting this?

@dex you are correct. There are no MIDI commands for this. I have reopened the original topic and will merge yours with it then forward this again to the dev team for review. Thanks.

Hi, not sure if the same workaround is good for IOS, as currently only use the Mac version.

But as mentioned previously the “switch library” MIDI command flips between playlists, search results and eventually the queue list each time the button mapped on the controller is pressed.

The issue that might be causing confusion and making it appear as if it doesn’t work, is that focus will only jump to the queue if there is at least one song in it.

So at the start of most gigs I just add a random song in the queue so I know I can get to it via the MIDI function on the controller without the focus getting stuck.

As I say, this is just for the MAC version, not sure if the same applies to IOS.

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@dex I’ve been told that you can use the Switch Library Table MIDI command in order to switch through the tables in the library and this should work when the Queue is visible on screen.

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@Slak_Jaw
Hi, just tried this and still does absolutely nothing on the SX2.

So back to my original thread……

There is no way of selecting the queue with midi commands on the SX2, unless I’m being a numpty, but I’m usually quite hot with the mapping.

Cheers

S :+1:t2:

Hi @sooteee, that’s strange. It works on my setup.

  1. Is the Queue visible on screen when you try this?
  2. Have you tried mapping it to a different button? Sometimes there are hidden MIDI commands in the built-in mappings that prevents certain buttons from being remapped.

All checked, queue visible, song added, remapped to different button etc, I can’t get to the queue by midi command.

This on a 12.9” M1 iPad Pro with a DDJ- SX2 connected. Also tried it with a 11” M2 iPad Pro and no luck either.

Just connected the MacBook Pro M1 to the SX2 out of interest and still nothing.

All 3 devices will not select the queue, even though there is a song in it and it is on screen.

This is also on the new built in mapping for v5, not my edited mapping file, so there’s nothing in the map to interfere….

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