STEMs Echo Out (like Serato)

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YOUR SUGGESTION:

  1. Could you please implement Echo Out for individual stems like Serato does

Hi @Geoffrey_Bauduin, thanks for the suggestion. Have you tried enabling the Mute FX?

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You can also apply the Manual FX to individual STEMs via the FX Routing

Hello,

@Slak_Jaw

I’m using Rane performer.

Is there a way to use pads to work like Serato does?

Thanks

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Hi @Geoffrey_Bauduin, I don’t use Serato myself. Can you please share a short screen recording with audio of how the STEMs pads work in Serato?

Here is a quick video showing what I want to achieve.

When clicking the pad below vocals at the moment it only mute the vocal, I would like to have an echo out only applied to vocals and the same for melody/bass/Drums

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@Slak_Jaw

Actually

Pad beloow vocals : apply an echo out only on the vocals (harmony/bass/drums left)

Pad below harmonic : apply an echo out on harmony/bass/drums (only vocals left)

Pad below Bass : apply vinyl brake on harmony/bass/drums (only vocals left)

Pad below drums : apply echo out on Drums (vocals/harmony/bass left)

@Slak_Jaw

at the moment Bottom row of controls = solo a single stem (soloing a new stem un-solos the previous one automatically).

@Geoffrey_Bauduin thanks for the additional info. Please enable the Mute FX as outlined above. Then try pressing the pad on the Performer that Mutes the STEM. I believe that is the top row of pads.

If you wish to swap the positions of the STEMs Mute and STEMs Solo pads, this will require some custom MIDI Mapping and I can guide you through the process.

I’d also like to have Mute FX like the ones Serato offers. To replicate that, I’ve put together a custom mapping that uses Manual FX 2 and 3, which are applied to the desired stems. This is then triggered by the respective Performance Pads. It’s not quite as elegant as a built-in solution - especially since you end up losing 2 out of 3 effects for other purposes - but I’m perfectly fine with always using only FX 1 for effects while DJing, for transitions, and the like.

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Nice! Thanks for sharing @Chris_R

Hi again @Geoffrey_Bauduin, I don’t have access to a RANE Performer to confirm for myself, but I did look at the code for the MIDI mapping file. It appears that the top row of pads is mapped to Neural Mix Active. This is basically STEMs Mute/Unmute. I mapped this to another DJ controller and enabled the Mute FX. This seems to work similar to the Serato STEMs Echo Out.

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@Geoffrey_Bauduin this is what it looks and sounds like using the Manual FX, with Echo Out+ routed to the Drums and Vocals STEMs:

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is this available on MAC OS? im trying to have all my stems just on and off and only want an FX on the Vocals turning off im looking at this and i think this is the answer to what im looking for

Hi @Owe_Marley, yes this is available on macOS. Please refer to the macOS user manual for more details.

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Hi All, I have a Rane Four and my pads work perfectly as you request @Slak_Jaw as always has nailed it

Just enable the FX in your software first, then connect the controller, every stem pad on exit will echo to your setting 1/2, 3/4 or 1 beat

All I would request Slakjaw is in upcoming releases could we have more than just echo to these stems in this way, vinyl break for example sounds great when killing stems

Cheers

Cuzer

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You’re welcome @Cuzer. Thanks for the additional feedback.

@Cuzer there’s an existing suggestion topic for more Mute FX options:

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Hello! It’s been nearly a week since my last reply. I’m going to consider this topic completed for now so I can focus on others. However, please feel free to respond and we can definitely revisit this. Thanks!