Syncing My Collection Playlists between Devices

This is so weird that i must confess curiosity on why they did not do yet.
Why, oh why?

bump… 1 month has passed so… we need a response that this is being prioritized

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I am requesting the exact same thing here. I think it is rather absurd that we cannot do this when Apple and its iCloud ecosystem is designed for exactly this. The iPad, the MacBook, the iPhone even the Apple Watch have the facilities built in for apps to sync and integrate.

Come on devs there is absolutely no need for us to be continuously pushing this topic, as it is something that should be made available to us as users. Apple has provided the platform now it’s up to you guys to make it work
When we are working on the fly, we often get a new truck and added via iPhone only to find out that we can’t use it on the Mac or the iPad.

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Hi friends at Algoriddim,

We get it – you have a vision on your product. You’re the next generation, not a crusty old cataloguing system like Rekordbox. All those old-school things like syncing and metadata.

But you know, sometimes there’s truth in those old systems, despite all the cobwebs. DJs still rely on their own metadata to order and recognize music while they perform. DJs still use different devices to edit and prepare than the ones they perform on.

Syncing seems to be, by a wide margin, the most requested feature by your user base (the top 2 voted items are both about it). Not Apple Vision Pro support, not additional video transitions, not sorting keys by similarity, or some of the other (undoubtly cool or handy) things you’ve added recently.

You’ve created a voting community for a reason. As it stands, there is no clearer way for you to learn that you users believe syncing is the single-most important thing to address.

A meaningful update would go a long way – perenially not addressing the big elephant in the room is no way to treat your community.

Cheers!

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I suspect part of the problem is Apple copyright protectionism. You can sync music files using iTunes from a computer to a mobile device, but can’t copy the music back in the other direction (which I’ve always found incredibly frustrating, and Apple’s use of the word “Sync” confusing, because it isn’t syncing, ie updating both devices with the latest changes made on either, which would be syncing in the true sense of the word, but instead what Apple mean is copying a music library from a computer to a mobile device, in one direction only). Any tune you’ve bought via Apple should appear on all Apple devices via Apple store online cloud, but not music you’ve bought from elsewhere (Beatport, Traxsource, Juno, Amazon Music etc).

It would be pointless implementing an automatic method of syncing DJay playlist database files if Apple’s policy deliberately prevents the music that is linked to in that database file from copying over in that direction.

There are manual “hack” ways of copying music and playlist database files with 3rd party apps (in either direction, like iMazing) but I suspect the reason you’re not seeing an automatic way to sync playlists from an ios device to a MacOS (or Windows) device (that would just work, with all the music copied over) is that would be essentially requesting DJay to bypass Apple’s copyright protection policies.

Theoretically your friend could install DJay on an iphone and in one sync you could copy all your music in DJay on your mobile device to their device. Apple won’t make it easy or automatic for that to happen (hence you have to be logged into your Apple account to see the music you’ve bought from Apple).

Some of what I’ve said there may not be 100% accurate but that’s the general impression I get about why the “sync between any device” feature isn’t easy to implement.

@Tony_Jey that’s possible, but I don’t believe this is the case. For one, this used to work automatically in a previous version of djay. For two, you can still manually do this by copying the djaymedialibrary file between iOS and MacOS with no issues.

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The media library file I can see on my iPad is only 383mb in size but there’s over 90Gb of music. That can only contain the information DJay knows about the tunes, not the music files themselves so transferring that file from one device to another won’t ensure that all the tunes in playlists are present and you’d get loads of “file not found” unless you also separately put all the music on both.

Of course, if you’d originally synced the music from the Macbook to the ios device it would already be on the Macbook.

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@Tony_Jey that is correct. The djaymedialibrary file is a database that contains all the Hot Cues, Saved Loops and Playlist information for all tracks in your djay library. This includes tracks from streaming services as well. It does not contain the files themselves. You still need to use something like iTunes/Music to keep the physical tracks on both devices synced. The database contains all of the other important data.

@Tony_Jey also to clarify, we are talking about the My Collection source in djay and all of the playlists created within that source. Keep in mind that the My Collection source allows you to include tracks from iTunes/Music plus all of the streaming services. Copying the djaymedialibrary database file between iOS and MacOS maintains these playlists and all of the Hot Cues and Saved Loops.

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Yes that’s as I understand it. I think people’s demands/expectations here is for a simple one-click sync between any device that includes all the tunes and data. My previous post about why Apple deliberately provide no mechanism for copying music from ios devices were my thoughts on why that may not be as easy to implement.

Yeah those are two separate things. This thread was originally about syncing the My Collection Playlists across MacOS and iOS devices. This by association includes Hot Cues, Saved Loops and beatgrids. Currently only the Hot Cues and Saved Loops are automatically synced using iCloud Sync.

I’m not sure it was. You understand how it works and can see the technical detail but I suspect many people demanding the feature would expect the tunes they have in playlists on ios devices to also just be there on any device they sync to as well.

I agree any custom beatgrids would be nice (I assume default beatgrids would be the same if analysed by the same program on both devices) but the bigger problem would be tunes not being there at all.

100% need all playlist to be synced across all devices using cloud.

Reading the points made by Tony_Jey. Maybe the solution would be some kind of sync meganism outside of Apple’s Music library. Similar to how syncing to a usb used to work for Rekordbox (or maybe still does, haven’t used it in years). Maybe a full cloud solution, maybe based on iCloud or Dropbox would give a way to sync ‘everything’.

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Hey Tony_Jey,
It is possible.
When a user subscribes to Apple Music.
The user has the option to sync across devices.
If the user decides to do so, Apple will upload all the users’ existing music to their server thus replacing any of the same tracks with higher quality and offline listening.
I choose to have this feature off because I’d rather sync through iTunes via Mac and am afraid of what would happen to my existing tracks.
If I buy a song in iTunes via an iPad,
when I open iTunes via Mac,
I download that song into I tunes via Mac.
Then when i connect the iPhone to the Mac, it will upload that song to the phone.
If the SYNC feature in Apple Music was ON in my devices, I would not have to go through this uploading.
I’ve been doing this for years.
As a matter of fact, I create smart playlist that will automatically put the new track in ALL devices.

NOTE: Djay will not play STREAMED music from Apple, only PURCHASED


tracks.

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The problem with Djay,
Is that it doesn’t SYNC the beatgrids through all devices. That is a major problem.
If I create cue points on one device…perfect.
But NO… not the beatgrids.

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Jiat came here to upvote thas topic.
I want playlists synced across devices. I don’t need the files synced but at least I want to be able to plug my hard drive taked from my mac onto my ipad and i see exactly the same playlists.

Having an ipad or iphone with terabytes of space to store music is too expensive. I would rather have the library info synced.
If i want the actual files locally on my ipad or iphone, i can always manually sync via Music app

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Please work on syncing between devices with the DJPro library feature. Would be really great. Always need to have a backup device at gigs in case of a problem and having the DJPro library sync would be an amazing added feature. Love the app! Keep it up!

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This is required more urgently now for tidal users as there are problems with tidal playlist ordering.

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Yes it is expensive,
But then your problems will lessen, no?