Would you pay double for faster core feature development & improved stability?

Hey @Mixfit,
Thanks for keeping the engine running! I really appreciate you taking the time to get things going again.

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So now the team have to employ additional specialist staff to chase down extra money?

That doesn’t work if you use “My Collection” to organize your library. If you just copy the DJay media library and audio files to the iOS device, then all the tracks in the playlists will be greyed out, and you have to go through a cumbersome re-linking process to fix it.

I only use my collection to organise my library and there is no cumbersome re-linking process, like i said, it takes me about a minute
If you are struggling put it to the forum and lets see if we can help.

If, like so many other users you nominate apple/itunes as your input sources you will always encounter problems and limitations and not be able to use djay to it’s full potential.
I understand it’s presence within djay for the fledgling/beginner market but it is not a dedicated dj service and as conveinient as it is, it will end up holding you back.
I bypass it completly and simply have a single folder with my own music files in it with no playlists or organisation which you do have to re-link but it is just one folder which involves no cumbersome process.

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I know all of this, because we already had an elaborate discussion in another thread, in which you also participated. For a refresher, read @Slak_Jaw’s post and the subsequent discussion.

So, it IS a cumbersome process if you already have all your audio files organized in a folder structure. And, even if you flatten your audio file folder to one big folder, the relinking takes quite some time if you have a lot of files.

All of this shouldn’t be necessary. In the absence of a proper synchronization mechanism, they should at least make the relinking on iOS easier by implementing recursive import or some path mapping feature as suggested in these threads:

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I don’t know why you need all your files organised in such a way outside of djay.
If you left the organisation part solely to djay, it would simplify and reduce your workload

Because I built the collection over many years, and use it in other DJ apps. And also because, organizing files in folders is a natural thing to do. Having 1000s of files in a single folder is a mess, and performs horribly…

I learned this from both digital dj tips and dj angelo on their website. Their advice was not to organise your music outside of the dj software as it it will interfere.
I trust that they know their stuff

If they recommend that you store, say 10,000 or more files in a single folder, then they don’t know their stuff, for sure. Try working with a folder with 10,000 files on iOS, and you will see how slow and un-manageable it is.

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I don’t see ios coping well with that many files whatever they do. Perhaps you need to streamline.

The iOS file system has no issues with a large number of files, as long as you have a reasonable amount in any given folder.

So, from what you write here, you don’t have a lot of files and therefore this manual re-linking of a flat music folder is not an issue. Well, good for you.

But it doesn’t alter the fact that we shouldn’t have to deal with all of this to keep a Mac and some iOS devices in sync.

You are absolutely right. The ios thing is still under development with serious limitations and what you desire would be great but I don’t see algoriddim looking to cater for users such as yourself presently, they are going for the younger newbie market who don’t possess large libraries of their own files.
It’s up to us serious users to find a way to deal with it because i don’t think this discussion will bear much fruit in the library sync department

I respect and applaud algoriddim on their current trajectory.
If i were a youngster looking to get into djing, djay is such an obvious and easy choice that one would expect to see growth in the company.
If they can corner that portion of the market and grow their business who knows? They may develop more serious features to keep their newly aquired fans engaged rather than move on.

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I think they are leading, they’re just missing a couple of core features. And have been for years in some cases.

Back on topic; I wouldn’t pay extra, it works, could be improved, but the missing stuff doesn’t hold me back.

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Ok. Then agree to disagree.

Also whether Algoriddim Djay is “leading” really depends on which aspects you’re looking at. They are ahead in some areas but have been missing a few core features for years—features that might be essential for certain users.

I’m in total agreement. If you look around here you can find enhancement requests from me dating back to 2012. Very basic library stuff (IMO) that would greatly improve the DJing experience. Still, I can work around it. Reluctantly. :wink:

That’s a dark road to go ……. “I ll pay you more to hurry up and fix things “. Not me!! I am paying for what the product is currently doing. Can’t sell me no pipe dreams😂

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Algoriddim has always lead the game - Spotify, Neural Mix, Fluid Beatgrids, Apple Music as well as the quest stuff. Problem now is that they are required to release updates on all platforms together - iOS, Android, Mac, PC. That’s a lot. Then they have the Apple vision and quest updates to do. They have spread themselves too thin. My 2 cents.

Basically, it’s a good idea to do this independently of a single application and also outside of it, so that you can also use it with another product if necessary. If you have built up and structured your music collection over years, it can be an incredible amount of effort to change everything just to be able to continue using it as usual just because you are using different software. Unfortunately, there is no common standard that really works everywhere.

Sorting into folders is only natural because we’ve all been used to it for a long time, many of us for decades. Ultimately, however, this is also just a habit. And in earlier years, of course, it made sense and was practical. In the meantime, however, the use of tags is basically the better and more universal way, just as it is with photos. Of course, this only works if the software can process it accordingly. This hasn’t been a problem with photos for many years, nor with the management of music libraries, but unfortunately it’s still not standard within DJ software itself.