Camelot Wheel Key Signature

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I reckon that instead of displaying the key signature of the track, it should display the key signature in Camelot wheel form/language/signature (4B, 6A, etc). This would remove the need of having a Camelot wheel while mixing in key, since you can just be like '4B...I might play 4A, 3B or 5B' instead of looking around for the key & getting confused while looking at a Camelot wheel.

Also, quite obviously, it should still show the key when using the top left & top right buttons on the app.

I am no programmer, but I honestly don't think it's that hard to make this possible since its a matter of conversion

Thanks for considering my idea if you did :)
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Posted 6 years ago

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Thanks for sharing your idea!
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Nuisance

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your welcome
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Jay Jay

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I totally agree. This would make mixing so much easier. I'm sure as mixing in key becomes more understandable then the standard of djaying will improve all round. Please please make this happen !
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Key match.


Why not include the simpler and easier version of key matching ie numbers instead of letters. Makes life a lot easier and more people would then be able to mix in key
Jay
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Keynote Detection.


I was just wondering now keynote detection had been introduce and is a great feature, if there is any chance this is going to be upgraded to key note as per the Camelot System for harmonic mixing.
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Please please please start using the Camelot key system. The current key system doesn't differentiate between major and minor either
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Warren

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Which djay version do you have? djay normally differentiates between minor and major.
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I think what Katsu was really after is to differentiate between the keys in more detail. Between Major and minor, Sharp and flat. Like the Camelot system. I use Djay 2 and it does show major and minor just not flat and sharp which would make harmonising much better. :)
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The latest version of djay2 does show sharps and flats
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Please implement soon. Make plans.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Keycodes.


Hi i was wondering could you implement Keycodes when listing by Key (like the camelot system.. " http://www.mixedinkey.com/cloud/Book/... " )

that would be awesome, and i figure super simple to implement...
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I want a keycodes option too!
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Tucker

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I would actually pay an upgrade charge for this.
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Ryan Mann

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Algoriddim probably can't directly switch to Camelot Codes, because they're trademarked by Mixed In Key. However, they might be able to create a workaround by allowing the user to rename each musical key to a custom code.
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There is also the very similar and free to use Open Key wheel: https://www.beatunes.com/en/open-key-.... For example I know it's also used in Traktor.
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Camelot Codes maybe trademarked, but Circle of Fifth (on which it is based) is known for hundreds of years
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Open key is free, Camelot is available in DJ Player Pro and Cross DJ Pro for example. It's simply a matter of priorities.
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YES YES YES
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contactabe

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Just realized this was 10 months ago and we don't have it yet. That's a bummer.
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djts2

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Yes, please shift to this system, or make it possible to rename the musical keys or implement offline harmonical matching
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Using Camelot Key notation.

Your products are great. Just one suggestion : could you use the Camelot Key notation to determine the key of each tune ? Would be great !
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yes please do this
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+1

camelot would be so convenient (previous Traktor user; they had it)
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Any update on whether this is happening?
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DO THIS PLEASE!
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Current "Sort by Key" i djay 2 is already more advanced than Camelot (aka Circle of Fifth), because key signatures are sorted in very smart way: relative minors and majors are highlighted in red, but next two and previous two keys signatures are harmonic too. For example if you picked a track in G major, E minor is in red, but next keys are D, Bm and previous are Am, C - those goes very well with G major too. So together you got 5 key signatures instead of just 3 in Camelot!!! It just needed to colour those previous and next key signatures in another color, orange for example, to make it more obvious.

But it can be even more advanced. For G major also key signatures of F, A#, Dm mix well, so together 8. I suggest to do something similar to software called Rapid Evolution - it also shows tracks harmonically relative to current one in different gradation of a color depending on BPM difference (many DJs don't like how 'Key Lock' sounds and prefer leave it off). Because if you pitch a track to +/- 6% than its key signature changes to one semitone (or next key signature).

Screen shot of Rapid Evolution 2:
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Bump.
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yes, but many controllers have the option of keylocking the key so it doesn't change when you pitch a higher or lower bpm
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PLEASE! :D
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Just let us edit the key tag (and all tags really, within the app). Boom, done.
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Hi All,

I agree it would be great to have the option to view the Key in standard notation or MIK notation.
In the interim, I use MIK to analyse the tracks and then place the key and tempo info at the beginning of the track name, plus the tempo in the Group tag field.
EG.
"7A - 5 - Tune in, Turn on, Cop out"

This means no matter what s/w I am using, (even iTunes), I can easily sort by Key & Tempo, Tempo, or BPM. And I can ALWAYS see the info as it is in the track name.

Tim
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pleaaasseeeeeeee
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...or just allow custom tags display in library and in tags you can store camelot keys:

http://community.algoriddim.com/algor...