Crossfader FX and Old Automix Behaviour

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@thomas_williams based on this video:

  1. Why don’t you simply manually slide the Crossfader across without using the arrows/Mix Now button?
  2. Alternatively, why not simply use the EQ Crossfader FX setting and have it run the Crossfader and EQs for you?

@thomas_williams in my personal opinion, in the long term, I think you would be much happier if you got a DJ controller. This will give you so much more control over your mixing than you can possible get from using a mouse and keyboard. You’ll learn a lot and your DJing will greatly improve IMO.

Even something really basic like the Reloop Mixtour will make a huge difference in what you can do.

With all due respect. Please don’t try to convince me to change my workflow.

I mix how I mix because I know what I do, and it’s 100 % fit for purpose. I will not change my style not my setup. It’s not a question of money, it’s a question of having its own style. I would love to use a neutral crossfader with not auto effects. Tried a lot of controllers, but this is not how it works for me. Sorry. Will you be able to provide a workaround?

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@thomas_williams I’m not trying to convince you to change your DJing style permanently. Just trying to help you get through your gig this weekend.

You asked for a temporary workaround and I offered 2 potential mixing options in my first response above:
“1. Why don’t you simply manually slide the Crossfader across without using the arrows/Mix Now button?
2. Alternatively, why not simply use the EQ Crossfader FX setting and have it run the Crossfader and EQs for you?”

The suggestion of a basic DJ controller was a bonus idea that I thought would be helpful in the long run as I have a LOT of experiencing DJing with and without hardware. Totally fine if you prefer no hardware. I get it.

I’m not a software engineer and I don’t write the code for this software so I personally cannot jump in and change something for you. The engineering team is aware of the issue, they are working on it and I continue discussing it with them closely.

Although I’ll make it through the gig, I need to create some guest mixes and contribute to a radio show. Moreover, I have a significant performance scheduled for Tuesday. I appreciate your assistance, and I understand that you’re not a software engineer. I just want to know if you, as the developer of this excellent software, comprehend the issue with fans who want to do real crossfader mixing without filters. It’s a fundamental technique, in my opinion. If I were to use a controller, I’d probably prefer to play on Pioneer gear, but that’s not relevant right now.

Eq one doesn’t use filters. I see on your video you were using eq. Why don’t you try using eq setting. You might get to like it. With every new advancement of technology there is always adjustments for djs to make. That’s what makes us dis, right? We learn and adapt.

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Hello everyone.
I’ll summarize it again here:

The neutral crossfader - which has been around for many years - is simply switched off by the new version 5.
Many DJs have used this function - just like me. It was one of the reasons for this software.

Now you’re simply getting rid of this function!

Does that make sense? You can bring as many innovations as you like, but please keep the original functions.
You obviously didn’t have that in mind. Based on the reactions from this group here, you should realize that it is important to us.
So please - bring this simple function back to DJPro, otherwise you will lose loyal customers.

I know you’re not programmers here, but this issue needs to be escalated to the appropriate people in charge.
If nothing happens here, we’re gone. That’s for sure.

You supporters can’t help it - you always do a good job and want to help us with solutions - but you can pass on the pressure from the community to the important department.

That would be nice :slight_smile:

Greetings DJ Siggi

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@DJSIGGI thanks for sharing your feedback. I have forwarded it to the engineering team along with the previous comments.

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Where can I select an EQ (EQ1) that does not use filters or other setting that can’t be influenced (knobs). This would help a lot. I want to have full control over my mix and this is not only my aim as you can see here. Its a very basic function.

As a DJ, I have a clear vision of my workflow and mixing style, and that’s why I choose my equipment accordingly. It’s just the way I roll. Not the other way around.

Perhaps some 16-year-olds enjoy technical gadgets, and these may be the customers you want to reach. I have been making music for 40 years, starting with vinyl for a long time and transitioning to digital for the past 5 years. It is essential for me to have full control over my transitions, which is unfortunately no longer the case with Crossfade FX.

Due to a judgment error, a crucial function has been omitted from the latest version of your product. Without this function, the software will no longer be as valuable to me, and I may consider switching to Pioneer Gear, which offers easier club play. I would like to know if you plan to address this issue and reinstate the function, or if the neutral crossfader will remain absent permanently, prompting me to seek an alternative. At present, I must admit that despite my great affection for the product, it has become unusable for me.

I want to give you an idea of how much I have used your product in the past. I have created more than 130 mixes for various podcast series around the world. Moreover, I have released mixes on both my personal profile and a local radio station. Overall, I have produced approximately 270 sets that have been published on SoundCloud using your tool. Besides I play live around 3 times a month in different venues in Zurich and Berlin and other cities in Europe.

Can you please let us know whether you consider bringing back the neutral Crossfader.

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Hello everyone,

I have received confirmation from high up that addressing the Crossfader FX On/Off issue is a top priority. I’ve been told it will be fixed in one of the upcoming updates. Thanks for your patience and understanding!

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Awesome Algoriddim team

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Hello again,
I’m glad to hear that this bland problem is being solved. But I would like to add something else:

In the new crossfader FX you can “only” select …4/8/16/32 bars. In the automix menu (on which the neutral crossfader has run over so far) you can set the bars up and down individually - i.e. in steps of 1.

Please take this into account when converting.

This option of being able to set the bars on each track deliberately and precisely is also one of the required functions that I have been using in your software for years.
I would like to ask you to include this in your development.

Thank you very much
DJ Siggi

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Hi, for the Windows version there is also this issue. Why is the FX Crossfader feature mastering the duration in the automix section?

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And the pic for the automix section

@JahNick if you press the Mix Now button from the CFX menu while using Automix, it will use the mix duration set in CFX. Otherwise, if you let djay automatically perform the transition it will use the mix duration set in the Automix settings. To prevent confusion, I recommend you set the duration the same in both.

Hi, thanks for the answer. Maybe I’m missing something, but I don’t see a MIX NOW button in the CFX menu. Can you explain the advice regarding the MIX NOW button in more detail?
If you mean the cross fader function on or off, top right, this does not matter. Whether it is on or off, the CFX continues to master over the automix settings in the top left. Also as the automix auto or manual set. And that is exactly what I want and could do and can no longer do; set the bars yourself

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@JahNick it’s called Mix Now on iOS and macOS, but Transition on Windows

Just set the number of bars in the CFX menu at the bottom and the Automix Settings to the same.