Option to use straight BPM by default (Fluid Beatgrid)

Fluid Beatgrid added to the topic title. Thanks for the suggestion @dwardo

As a DJ you still have to check your tracks after any DJ program analyze it and if you had just simple check the BPM edit you would have seen the option that gave you the correct BPM if you change the beat grid to straight BPM and by the way the BPM of Drumspyder - Strands of the Web is 162

This option is now available in 5.2.4.

Navigate to the djay Settings>Library>BPM ANALYSIS>Tempo Change Detection and set it to Off (Straight Only)

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This is why Algoriddim and DJay simply are the best on the market! Thank you @Slak_Jaw and the dev team. I look forward to using Fluid Beatgrid when mixing rock/funk tracks!

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Thanks for the positive feedback @gravitybass. It’s always appreciated!

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@Slak_Jaw
I don’t quite understand what it’s supposed to do. If I set the setting to “Off straight only”, the software still changes some songs. For example, it changes tracks that have 42 bpm to 150 bpm. Why is that? It shouldn’t calculate/analyze anything independently anymore, should it?
I mean, well, they are difficult songs of course. It is Persian music, but nevertheless, the logic should be, don’t change anything on your own, right?

Hi @DJKamyR, with Tempo Change Detection set to Off (Straight Only), djay will attempt to apply a constant tempo/straight beatgrid to the song. If the song has a varying tempo, then djay will calculate what it thinks is the most suitable BPM for the song and apply a straight grid. If the song has a varying tempo and djay doesn’t calculate the BPM that you think is appropriate, then you can simply edit the value and enter what you think it should be. You can then also adjust the beatgrid as needed.

Please note that if you have this setting set to Off and have songs with varying tempos, the beatgrid will not be dynamic and will not be automatically adjusted to fit the waveform downbeats. IMO if you have songs with varying tempos and you want to use Sync or BPM synced FX, then you should set this to Automatic so that the beatgrid will properly fit the waveform downbeats.

Hi @Slak_Jaw Thank you for the detailed explanation. I will keep it automatic.
Thanks

I would also like to say a big compliment to your team; you have once again included some cool features. All that is missing is the display on the FlX10 and all the other competitors can pack up.

THANK YOU ALGORIDDIM FOR LISTENING TO YOUR CUSTOMERS!

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Hi @Slak_Jaw. Can you tell me what the other setting “Key” on this “Library” screen does.

It has 2 options “Fuzzy” and “Exact”, but as far as I can see it doesn’t have any impact on things.

Hi @DJ_Big_Blender, this affects how Key Match works. Please check out the linked article below explaining what fuzzy key mixing is.

Hi thanks,
Yes I am aware of that technique, but was looking for how this setting reflects the way the software works.

@DJ_Big_Blender if set to Fuzzy and you press Key Match in djay it will use the Fuzzy Match method instead of changing the key to Exactly match the other track.

Setting this to off does nothing for me, the BPM will still be automatically adjusted on some tracks. This is unintended behavior, right? Can you please check this again?

Automatically adjusted? You mean you’re seeing the BPM readout change when using sync?

Please give at least one example of a track, and exactly what you mean by “automatically adjusted”.

You can try Lustmord - Their souls asunder. It will straight from the beginning move from 55 to 66 BPM. I know it is an ambient track. The thing is, the BPM should never automatically change. I tried the new function switching automatic tempo detection globally to off so I am really confused that this could ever happen, no matter what track.

Just to be clear, setting the new option to OFF should make the BPM become fixed, right? If so, that is clearly a bug.

Thanks for your help!

Hi @axibert, if you open the Edit BPM menu, is the BPM set to Straight? For me this track is being set to 67 BPM using this setting.

I wanted to thank you and the team for implementing the ability to turn it off by default. I’m still a new DJ and use sync when recording mixes, and had the dynamic beatgrid totally botch part of one because it thought the section dropped over 50bpm, causing the other track to slow down drastically in turn, when the track was in fact in constant time. The ability to turn it off by default and enable it for tracks where it does occur is the perfect implementation in my mind. I appreciate your team listening to the community and taking their feedback into account.

You’re welcome @c20c20. Thanks for the positive feedback!

@c20c20 when things like this happen, it’s best to report it here, giving as much detail as possible, so that the team can look into why it might have happened and improve the detection.

What was the track (artist and title) and where in the track (minutes and seconds) did it occur?