I’ve run into a strange issue with cue points and duplicate-looking entries of the same track, which you can see in the video I’ve attached.
Here’s what’s happening:
The same track (Ice Ice Baby in this case) appears multiple times in my history list, and each version has different cue points—even though they all point to the exact same audio file in my collection (confirmed in Finder and iTunes). The track only exists once in my library.
This causes confusion, especially when preparing sets, because depending on which version I load, I get different cue points.
I think the software should treat it as one track with one set of cue points.
Has anyone else seen this? Any idea why it’s happening or how to fix it?
My take on this - you only have one copy (as you proved by going to your library) but the History view is correctly showing three appeances because you’ve played it on three different occasions and presumably set different cue points each time.
For some there would be a benefit here because they may want to have different cue points for different uses. I’m sure this has been a request in the past.
If you want the “original” then (as you showed) you can find it via the library, not the history.
Thanks for diving into this. Here are the answers to your questions:
Correct — I prefer to work in My Collection.
This issue doesn’t happen with every track. I believe it occurs in specific cases, possibly involving tracks with assigned related tracks. Still figuring out the exact trigger, but clearly, as you can see, duplicate ambiguous entries can happen, so the ecosystem isn’t entirely failsafe.
Yes, I’ll send you the download link via DM.
Correct, I’m on version 5.3.1 — but this issue wasn’t introduced in the latest update; it’s been present for a while.
Well, it definitely is a strange case. So far, I haven’t been able to find another example of this behavior.
Thinking about it, it might as well have been caused by finding a duplicate track in iTunes and re-assigning the same source, or by re-assigning a missing file in djay to a file that was already in the library.
I think for now it’s best to leave it as is and save this case as a backup, just in case it pops up again.
Every track in djay is assigned an internal identifier (TitleID) that helps the app track things like cue points, play history, and metadata. Occasionally, especially after relinking files or resolving missing tracks, the same audio file can end up with more than one titleID. This could explain why you’re seeing different cue points for what appears to be the same track.
To help us confirm this, could you try the following?
Open iTunes/Music app and load the track directly from there into djay on deck 1.
Then separately, open Finder, locate the exact same track file, and drag it into djay on deck 2.
Let us know if the cue points match — or if you’re seeing different cue points depending on where the track was loaded from.
This will help us pinpoint whether the issue is indeed related to duplicate internal IDs. Thanks again for sticking with us while we dig into this!
So I’m really hoping that development will find and implement a solution for this polluting problem very soon, as otherwise the files will become more inconsistent every day.
Hi @DJ_Big_Blender, I spoke with engineering about this again.
This looks like a Title ID issue, maybe related to iTunes. It’s possible that loading from the file directly is reporting a different duration for the track. Here you can see the different durations for tracks loaded via iTunes from the ones loaded from a file. In this case, are you loading the same track from different sources?
From my experience there is always a small tolerance in the title/ID plus duration check. A difference of about three seconds is mostly the case. You can see that also with Spotify versus local files. They’re still recognised even when the track length is slightly off.
@DJ_Big_Blender has this “title id” issue gone? I have had it too for afew tracks afew months ago, however, lately I am seeing less and less of such (maybe v5.5.2 kinda solved it?) - I explain.
What would happen is:
A track appears twice in library yet pointing to the same file in finder. One would be in all playlists where i had placed the track originally, whereas the other would either be in no playlist or just a few or even a completely different playlist.
Cue-pointing one of them doesn’t reflect in the other, neithor would the other show as played, even if the mirror is played.
However, in the past few weeks, I have seen alot less of such. I still once in a while get to see a track appearing twice in library but when I load one on deck, the other one also turns yellow (played), and when I cue-point one, the other too reflecs the new cue.
Are you seeing same results in v5.5.2?
I am yet to install v5.6
